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re: The "it" hits the fan. Societal collapse. You fleeing to the country or staying home?

Posted on 9/14/26 at 12:50 pm to
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 9/14/26 at 12:50 pm to
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Actually, looking at small 25 to 30 ft sailboats right now too.


Smart. See where they’re at and steal one when it’s time.


I want to buy one, you can get them really cheap... and outfit it ahead of time with solar panels, generator etc., solar stove/kettle, and stock it with survival rations, guns and ammo, fishing rods and lures. I'm about to buy a portable water desalinator as well. I hope to have a bit of a headstart as to when the rest of society finally realizes shite has really hit the fan, so I can already be gone and on my way to a remote island somewhere.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 9/14/26 at 12:51 pm to
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Can we make a TD bug out spot where all of us can get together and share supplies and look at each other's ole ladies in person?
Premium gets you a spot at the tigerdroppings bunker in Houma.


In.
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
17894 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 12:51 pm to
It'd be anarchy just about everywhere but the most rural, inaccessible places. Overall there are about 90 people per square mile in the US. Everybody would be fleeing the population centers. You might hide from it for a while but sooner or later it'll get to you, especially if you're in a location with a lot of resources.


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It's a tough call bc I'd want to be away from large groups of people and near water for fishing, hunting


Game would be depleted really quickly. Would probably have less than a year to really be able to rely on it for food. People who don't know how to hunt would figure it out quick and they wouldn't just be sitting in a tree waiting. They'd be organizing drives, burning, etc. If most people had no way of preserving it a lot would probably rot unless they were able to consume it immediately.
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Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
24358 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 12:51 pm to
Thought about this a bunch. By the time I get to my camps down the bayou, im already dead or others have commandeered my sites. Best to stay home and defend my position.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
17002 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 12:54 pm to
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It's a tough call bc I'd want to be away from large groups of people and near water for fishing, hunting and drinking but it would be a massive lift to pack up all the basics i'd feel I need

Where will you go?
Do you honestly think hunting and fishing will keep you fed?
Do you honestly think you will be able to drive there?

Why is this the 2nd prep topic today?


No reason. Everything is fine baw... Don't worry about it.
Posted by Sharlo
Van down by the river.
Member since Oct 2021
1863 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 12:54 pm to
One persistent flaw in the whole SHTF conversation is that urban/suburban folks fantasize about "bugging out to the country" where there will be fewer people and more resources.

That's a terrible assumption. I live extremely rural in a place many would describe as sparsely populated, yet there are plenty of people who (1) already live here; (2) spend our lives building farms and ag businesses; and (3) aren't going to be overrun by thousands of refugees. We will also be going through SHTF, and I'm not sharing resources with whoever shows up.

Your best bet is to have a strong local community, wherever you already live, and have as much nonperishable food and essentials saved up as you can store. Everyone should have a gun they can safely operate and a good stash of ammo.

That said, don't go crazy and think you'll all the sudden be Rambo because you bought a bunch of black rifles. If the people you fear the most actually show up, they will quite easily overwhelm you and take your stuff. (I heard an ex-military guy say that a while back, and I think there's a lot of truth in it.)

Let's all hope the SHFT event never happens. It will be worse than any of us can imagine, and few will survive the first few years, no matter where you live.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
17002 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 12:58 pm to
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My primary concern would be access to drinking water.


I've been minimally prepping for years now. Couple years ago, I bought a 5 gallon LifeSaver jerry can that filters dirty stagnant mud puddles into safe drinking water, filtering something like 99.999999% of impurities, and it's good for 20K gallons of filtration. And I have a spare filter. I also have a few LifeStraws. I would suggest at least stocking up on a few of those and you'd be good for quite a while.
This post was edited on 9/14/26 at 1:00 pm
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38707 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 12:59 pm to
Good post but curious of the contrast between:
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aren't going to be overrun by thousands of refugees. We will also be going through SHTF, and I'm not sharing resources with whoever shows up.

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don't go crazy and think you'll all the sudden be Rambo because you bought a bunch of black rifles. If the people you fear the most actually show up, they will quite easily overwhelm you and take your stuff. (I heard an ex-military guy say that a while back, and I think there's a lot of truth in it.)
Posted by tonydtigr
Beautiful Downtown Glenn Springs,Tx
Member since Nov 2011
6920 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 1:01 pm to
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Live in the mountains of Arkansas. If shite starts getting bad enough it’s reached me then the country has fallen.


I've got fully stocked cabin on a lake there and lots of friends in the area. That's where I'm heading.
Posted by Friscodog
Ruston, LA. (Formerly Frisco TX)
Member since Jul 2009
5246 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 1:13 pm to
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So...1 1/2 months tops.

You do realize you need more than just fish and meat right? You need 1 acre per person and unless you are already farming, about 2 years from seeing benefits.


We have a whole half of a cow in our freezers, that usually lasts us a year. We also have chickens so we have access to fresh eggs. We do have a garden, and we have canned vegetables in the freezer along with other preserved items. We would have 6 weeks of generator electricity if we are careful on how we use it. So I would give us 3-6 months minimum. Oh we also have a water well on property and I can rig up a solar panel to run pump if necessary long-term.
Posted by slidingstop
Member since Jan 2025
2680 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 1:16 pm to
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I'd want to be away from large groups of people and near water for fishing, hunting and drinking but it would be a massive lift to pack up all the basics i'd feel I need.


somebody with a scope will take you out and steal all your shite.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
132987 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 1:16 pm to
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I've got fully stocked cabin on a lake there and lots of friends in the area. That's where I'm heading.


Your friends will become enemies really fast
Posted by Sharlo
Van down by the river.
Member since Oct 2021
1863 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 1:18 pm to
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Good post but curious of the contrast between:

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aren't going to be overrun by thousands of refugees. We will also be going through SHTF, and I'm not sharing resources with whoever shows up.


and:

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don't go crazy and think you'll all the sudden be Rambo because you bought a bunch of black rifles. If the people you fear the most actually show up, they will quite easily overwhelm you and take your stuff. (I heard an ex-military guy say that a while back, and I think there's a lot of truth in it.)


Let me explain. There's a difference between a few folks passing through to beg/borrow/steal whatever they can. Those folks can be run off fairly easily, especially if you're armed.

But if you get some kind of organized gang coming around, with a bunch of armed men and some level of skill, one man will have no chance holding that off beyond a few hours or maybe days. That was the point of the quote I referenced.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
41839 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 1:20 pm to
Look again baw.
Posted by Friscodog
Ruston, LA. (Formerly Frisco TX)
Member since Jul 2009
5246 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 1:21 pm to
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ot only that but small militias looking for supplies will take him out


That very well may happen, we have family and neighbors who all look out for each other so we may be taken out but we will survive much longer than people in DFW, or Houston, or NOLA etc.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Member since Feb 2008
25266 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 1:22 pm to
I can have everything I need packed up in less than an hour if my son is with me more like two hours if I’m alone. That includes shelter, weapons, food, water, filtration everything I need.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
35675 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 1:23 pm to
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What can you grow in western Utah?


It's more central than western, but squash (gourd like squash), beans and corn.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38707 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 1:25 pm to
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It's more central than western, but squash (gourd like squash), beans and corn.
My grandpa was a beet farmer in Sandy.
This post was edited on 9/14/26 at 1:27 pm
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
35675 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 1:29 pm to
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My grandpa was a beet farmer in Sandy.


The Mascot of Jordan High School is Sandy is "The beat diggers".
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38707 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 1:30 pm to
Yeah. He played center for them in the 40's. He was very proud of the name.
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