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re: The "it" hits the fan. Societal collapse. You fleeing to the country or staying home?
Posted on 9/15/26 at 2:18 am to dstone12
Posted on 9/15/26 at 2:18 am to dstone12
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So what are you going to do
Ensure that you are in one of the few areas of America that still community farms instead of commodity farming. What will kill most here is lack of farming. Bug out all you wish, you do not have enough stored to last unless you are already there, working the land. This leaves much of the Wasatch front(Mormon areas only), Amish areas and Central Coast CA(that place would be overrun). Once it happens, if you are not part of that community or already friends with that community, you pretty much will have to beg to join and you better have worth. Doctor, dentist, engineer, or something else they may not have.
Most people on this thread will die. Either from being too ready for conflict or they will starve. Those that do not starve will most likely die from a simple infection. It wasn't long ago that tooth infections were in the top 10 of "ways people died".
This post was edited on 9/15/26 at 2:19 am
Posted on 9/15/26 at 2:53 am to UtahCajun
As far as cities go, Provo/Orem has to be about as well positioned as it gets for a non-nuclear SHTF scenario. Everyone I knew growing up in Orem had a serious food stockpile and plenty of firearms. Add in the relative isolation, the Bishop’s Storehouse system, a community already organized down to the ward level, and the Mormon 'get shite done' culture.
I’m not saying they’d hold out forever, but I can’t think of another metro area that size or larger with more built-in advantages
I’m not saying they’d hold out forever, but I can’t think of another metro area that size or larger with more built-in advantages
Posted on 9/15/26 at 3:12 am to northshorebamaman
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I’m not saying they’d hold out forever, but I can’t think of another metro area that size or larger with more built-in advantages
The Mormons are well prepared and can outlast almost anyone. There is a reason "Mormon cupboard" is a real thing. Hell, we even had one and we aren't even Mormon.
Just know. Bugging out to some "secure" location pretty much means you will
1) need to leave all the shite you packed in your vehicle, on the highway because it will be blocked quickly
2) if you do make it, you get to watch as your family starves out in the middle of nowhere because you aren't farming and have no livestock.
Posted on 9/15/26 at 3:27 am to UtahCajun
quote:That’s fair advice. Ever heard of Harry Truman, the old guy who lived on Mount St. Helens, refused to evacuate, and died when it blew? That’s closer to where I’m at.
Just know. Bugging out to some "secure" location pretty much means you will
1) need to leave all the shite you packed in your vehicle, on the highway because it will be blocked quickly
2) if you do make it, you get to watch as your family starves out in the middle of nowhere because you aren't farming and have no livestock.
I have zero interest in trying to live out some Mad Max existence. Not in a depressing way either. I’m just too old and too much a product of this world to have any desire to transition into Fallout: New Vegas or whatever the frick comes after it.
I’ll put up a spirited defense of the house. If that fails, well, better luck next existence.
Posted on 9/15/26 at 3:43 am to northshorebamaman
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I have zero interest in trying to live out some Mad Max existence. Not in a depressing way either. I’m just too old and too much a product of this world to have any desire to transition into Fallout: New Vegas or whatever the frick comes after it.
Yeah, I feel you. SHTF scenarios are nothing like we see in the movies. Most times, we are in it before we even know it. We may be in one now, who knows. Our "leaders" know and have practiced and simulated it thousands upon thousands of times. Whatever happens, us little people will not know until there are soldiers mobilizing and LEOs are patrolling the streets, disarming people.
But discussing what we think will happen is always fun. I love to read what people think they will do.
Edit - just realized you are the guy that lives on Mackinac Island. If it happens, just stay there. You are about as safe as it gets.
This post was edited on 9/15/26 at 3:57 am
Posted on 9/15/26 at 4:06 am to UtahCajun
quote:Half this board’s SHTF plan begins and ends with spitting Beech-Nut in somebody’s eye.
But discussing what we think will happen is always fun. I love to read what people think they will do.
Posted on 9/15/26 at 4:48 am to BTROleMisser
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I've been minimally prepping for years now.
Yet your solution is to head to some remote island somewhere.
Awesome, at least no one will have to hear your cries of pain while you starve to death.
Posted on 9/15/26 at 4:57 am to northshorebamaman
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I can run a 20 burner saute station like nobody's business but also know my way around MRE heaters. I can provide a ton of interesting facts about WW2 and 1970's stereo receivers. I also have a deluxe instant pot with the air fryer(makes yogurt too!).
(I'm going to die right away, most likely)
Personally id keep you around, im sure your talent for trivia and fun facts can keep us entertained for at least a day or two.. and there'll probably be some beans and cans of tuna that need sautéing or air frying .
Posted on 9/15/26 at 4:58 am to Dalosaqy
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This shite is crazy.
Found the guy who will be dead within the first five minutes .
Posted on 9/15/26 at 6:43 am to sidewalkside
Probably headed to the lake house.
Posted on 9/15/26 at 6:51 am to northshorebamaman
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I live on a small island that's probably a better spot than anything I could drive to. Plus, if shite really hits the fan I doubt the ferry keeps running so I'd be stuck anyways.
Just make sure the Ferry on tied up on the island
Posted on 9/15/26 at 7:28 am to Bacon84
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i live down a dead end road, that ends in a wildlife reserve, and I hunt in my back yard...... that wild life area is in a bend in a river. so, we are pretty well secluded. just a handful of houses.
This is my dream. Missed a couple of opportunities for this here in Alabama. Still looking.
Posted on 9/15/26 at 7:48 am to sidewalkside
Every instinct in your body will be telling you to stay home and stay close to home. So you should plan to do that.
Obviously stuff like a flood or lava is a different story.
Obviously stuff like a flood or lava is a different story.
Posted on 9/15/26 at 8:13 am to sidewalkside
if you're obese, can't run 2 miles, or rely on medication to keep you alive you should just be planning to be dead within 2 months of the collapse.
with a major powergrid and logistical outage the population would probably be cut by way more than half in the first 6 months.
with a major powergrid and logistical outage the population would probably be cut by way more than half in the first 6 months.
This post was edited on 9/15/26 at 8:18 am
Posted on 9/15/26 at 8:17 am to Loup
I am not really sure I understand what “shite hit the fan” means.
Posted on 9/15/26 at 8:19 am to NytroBud
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Damn buddy.
I get it.
But
I keep hearing that we will only get weeks off the food etc.
But who in their right mind that lives in the city that has 10% horticulture knowledge is just going to say:
“Yep, we’re screwed/glued/tattooed so we should just sit here and let this roving gang come to the outskirts of Atlanta/Raleigh/Birmingham and take over our house and family”.
No, we have a place that I have decided we will go. And we DO only have weeks of supplies, but that may be better than none at all or only days. And even the 2 hour trip may take two days. But who is not going to try?
No one really knows how long it would be.
So if I can buy 2 weeks, that’s great.
And no I am not naive to think that Red Dawn will happen. But damn, the human nature in you HAS to say, there is an outlet out of this suburb, we are going to take it even if we only get two weeks.
This post was edited on 9/15/26 at 8:21 am
Posted on 9/15/26 at 8:22 am to dstone12
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dstone12
I didn't see bullets listed, must have item.
Posted on 9/15/26 at 8:31 am to dstone12
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dstone12
Have you included like minded friends or extended family into your plans?
Edit - Red Dawn, or more specifically war, is the most common SHTF situation. In these cases, it is totally out of your control.
This post was edited on 9/15/26 at 8:34 am

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