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re: The Absurdities of Youth Baseball
Posted on 3/14/17 at 2:11 pm to Pecker
Posted on 3/14/17 at 2:11 pm to Pecker
There's a lot of people in this thread that just assume the kid is enjoying themselves, and that's a big assumption.
Lots of people on here asking "if not for this what do I sign them up for?" The fact that question is being asked gives me insight into their parenting. My answer would be whatever the kid is interested in, help foster that.
Lots of people on here asking "if not for this what do I sign them up for?" The fact that question is being asked gives me insight into their parenting. My answer would be whatever the kid is interested in, help foster that.
Posted on 3/14/17 at 2:12 pm to DaTroof
It's all about the dad's living their sports dreams, or lack thereof, through their kids.
Posted on 3/14/17 at 2:13 pm to YouAre8Up
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Some of the kids just want to play ball and have fun in the summer while out of school.
Yep, and all the other kids want to beat those kids' asses figuratively speaking on the field.
Posted on 3/14/17 at 2:15 pm to DaTroof
How about teaching children life sports like golf or tennis that they can play when they are older or with a client. Nothing like asking a potential client if they want to go the batting cages or pad up for some one on one football...
Posted on 3/14/17 at 2:52 pm to Jim Smith
Its like anything else - the general idea is that it is either very good for kids or very bad for kids - too much of an opinion all the way in one direction or another. My thought is - who am I to say what is good for a group of kids other than its good to give them proper nutrition, shelter and clothing.
I know some folks that enjoy the travel ball deal as a family, the kid seems to really enjoy it, the parents enjoy the travel together and the social interaction.
And I know/have seen some folks where it does seem a little over the top - kid does not appear to be having fun and is pretty serious about it, parents hard on them, competing though their kids and so on.
So like anything else - it has its good and its bad - some of it I see as a positive and some as a negative, but I find it improper of me to view it as what is best for kids and more so to view what is best for the kid. And it is totally wrong of me to say what is best for a kid that aint mine.
I know some folks that enjoy the travel ball deal as a family, the kid seems to really enjoy it, the parents enjoy the travel together and the social interaction.
And I know/have seen some folks where it does seem a little over the top - kid does not appear to be having fun and is pretty serious about it, parents hard on them, competing though their kids and so on.
So like anything else - it has its good and its bad - some of it I see as a positive and some as a negative, but I find it improper of me to view it as what is best for kids and more so to view what is best for the kid. And it is totally wrong of me to say what is best for a kid that aint mine.
Posted on 3/14/17 at 3:01 pm to DavidTheGnome
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Lots of people on here asking "if not for this what do I sign them up for?"
sarcasm....quite being so obtuse
Posted on 3/14/17 at 5:58 pm to tgrbaitn08
My kid turned eight in September, and we were approached for him to play travel ball. The coach has a son that's on the team, and the coach was my old highschool baseball coach. So it's like I didn't know the guy.
The guy genuinely loves the sport, and isn't doing it for the money. He only collected enough fees for tournaments, insurance, and jerseys.
We are a travel team, but we shut it down for Rec ball (so all the other kids who don't have the option to play travel ball can have an opportunity to play)
All the rec ball coaches have an "understanding" that each team is allowed "x" amount of travel ball kids, that way no one team has an advantage.
We also shut it down for hunting season because the boys love going to the camp/hunting/fishing.
As father, academics is main priority. I will have no problem not bringing my kid to practice/missing games because his grades are slipping.
I feel bad for the kids whose parents' think they'll be the next Derek Jeter. Chances of my kid even making it to college are slim to none, but that's ok.
We'll continue to do travel ball, as well as football and golf until my kid decides to throw in the towel.
TLDR; not all travel ball parents/coaches are bad, don't let a few bad ones ruin it for the parents that put their kids in travel ball because the kid loves the sport.
The guy genuinely loves the sport, and isn't doing it for the money. He only collected enough fees for tournaments, insurance, and jerseys.
We are a travel team, but we shut it down for Rec ball (so all the other kids who don't have the option to play travel ball can have an opportunity to play)
All the rec ball coaches have an "understanding" that each team is allowed "x" amount of travel ball kids, that way no one team has an advantage.
We also shut it down for hunting season because the boys love going to the camp/hunting/fishing.
As father, academics is main priority. I will have no problem not bringing my kid to practice/missing games because his grades are slipping.
I feel bad for the kids whose parents' think they'll be the next Derek Jeter. Chances of my kid even making it to college are slim to none, but that's ok.
We'll continue to do travel ball, as well as football and golf until my kid decides to throw in the towel.
TLDR; not all travel ball parents/coaches are bad, don't let a few bad ones ruin it for the parents that put their kids in travel ball because the kid loves the sport.
This post was edited on 3/14/17 at 6:01 pm
Posted on 3/14/17 at 6:13 pm to nguyt518
That's the way it should be done. 
Posted on 3/14/17 at 6:23 pm to DaTroof
A lot of kids doing it because "the other kids are doing it." Now that my kids are in high school and one about to finish it is interesting to think back about all the kids that played and where things stand. All of the kids that did other sports in addition to travel baseball played some sport in high school, most at a pretty high level. 2 of the kids that just played baseball growing up are done. On the other hand, some kids just loved playing baseball and they wanted to do it all the time. You can't fake that.
Baseball doesn't develop their athletic ability very much so I would encourage them to play something in addition to baseball and be on a team that accepts that. The vast majority turned out to be very competitive at what high school sport they play and a few will play something in college.Also tell your kid every year that they need to really enjoy it to continue doing travel ball.
Baseball doesn't develop their athletic ability very much so I would encourage them to play something in addition to baseball and be on a team that accepts that. The vast majority turned out to be very competitive at what high school sport they play and a few will play something in college.Also tell your kid every year that they need to really enjoy it to continue doing travel ball.
Posted on 3/14/17 at 6:46 pm to tigerskin
You hit it on the head.
These psychotic parents who push their kid to one sport from the beginning and not allowing them to develop movement, spatial awareness, strength, balance, speed, and agility are doing their children a huge disservice.
I always got a kick out parents being dumbfounded why their child couldn't even make the high school team when they had invested 6-8 years in a single sport. Now what does the kid do?
Soccer and basketball aren't much better than baseball with their travel teams.
And the volume of games to the volume of practice is freaking insane. Yea lil Johnny playing right field is get a world of experience playing 7 games a week and practicing once.
These psychotic parents who push their kid to one sport from the beginning and not allowing them to develop movement, spatial awareness, strength, balance, speed, and agility are doing their children a huge disservice.
I always got a kick out parents being dumbfounded why their child couldn't even make the high school team when they had invested 6-8 years in a single sport. Now what does the kid do?
Soccer and basketball aren't much better than baseball with their travel teams.
And the volume of games to the volume of practice is freaking insane. Yea lil Johnny playing right field is get a world of experience playing 7 games a week and practicing once.
Posted on 3/14/17 at 6:57 pm to DaTroof
I teach my kid that it's better to be the owner of a pro sport franchise than to be a player for one. We practice signing payroll checks on the front not the back.
Plus, he sucks at sports.
But the little sucker is damn near a genius, so maybe it'll work out for him.
Plus, he sucks at sports.
But the little sucker is damn near a genius, so maybe it'll work out for him.
Posted on 3/14/17 at 7:08 pm to Rossberg02
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Soccer and basketball aren't much better than baseball with their travel teams.
Except those two sports teach...
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movement, spatial awareness, strength, balance, speed, and agility h
Posted on 3/14/17 at 7:40 pm to dsides
Except I was referring to them with their specialization and practice to game ratio. But yes those sports are key to those attributes
Posted on 3/14/17 at 7:44 pm to dsides
Just checking into this thread, and overall i feel organized sports are important to the development of children, and just like any other activity, they can be taken to extremes, and baseball seems to be the worst for this. And has anybody mentioned the increase in significant injuries with long lasting effects that are caused by overuse that is prevalent in baseball? Please stop the madness, play baseball in baseball season then get some rest play a different sport until next baseball season
Posted on 3/14/17 at 8:17 pm to Tigerpaw123
My brother has spent 300k+ since his daughter was 8 playing fast pitch. She got a juco scholarship. He wishes he could do it over and just have fun.
Posted on 3/14/17 at 8:21 pm to YNWA
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It's all about the dad's living their sports dreams, or lack thereof, through their kids.
I played football in jr high and high school, I was never pushed to do it, but I did it because I knew it would make my dad happy. If asked at the time my dad would have said I enjoyed doing it and he would never have pushed me into something I didn't want to do. I didn't enjoy it, would have quit in a second, but not wanting to disappoint your dad is a powerful motivator for a kid.
Posted on 3/14/17 at 8:23 pm to Pecker
Most of the travel ball parents have a difficult time admitting that their own motivations play as much if not more of a role than any other factor. These are dads who lay awake in bed obsessing over how to improve their sons performance. They are more competitive than the kids in a sense. Constantly obsessing over mechanics and correction of minor flaws that are holding their kid back from achieving baseball excellence. It is a seeking of personal validation in certain ways. The moms have different motivations. They get real tied up in the social aspect of it all. Women, by nature, seem to want to show off their kid as a status symbol. They chronicle their sons baseball careers on FB and Instagram in a "look at my kid and his 2nd place fake diamond ring" and "we are sooooo proud of this young man and his travel team! Placed 2nd and got the ring! Go Bombers!" type of "in your face bitches" style.
Point of this story is to say that nobody who is posting in this thread will have a kid play MLB and that most of you are insecure rednecks living vicariously through your children. You would be better served by dumping the 9 month a year baseball and let them learn to golf as a second game. They will get way more mileage out of that as an adult.
Point of this story is to say that nobody who is posting in this thread will have a kid play MLB and that most of you are insecure rednecks living vicariously through your children. You would be better served by dumping the 9 month a year baseball and let them learn to golf as a second game. They will get way more mileage out of that as an adult.
Posted on 3/14/17 at 8:27 pm to DaTroof
Just got home from "Community Ball" practice, we are playing 10U and 3 new kids look like they've never thrown a ball.
One was adopted out of a drug infestation.
The excitement in their faces is tremendous.
One was adopted out of a drug infestation.
The excitement in their faces is tremendous.
Posted on 3/14/17 at 8:32 pm to DaTroof
Agree with the OP. I refuse to let my kids play any sports. What's the point?
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