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re: The Absurdities of Youth Baseball

Posted on 3/14/17 at 2:11 pm to
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31596 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 2:11 pm to
There's a lot of people in this thread that just assume the kid is enjoying themselves, and that's a big assumption.

Lots of people on here asking "if not for this what do I sign them up for?" The fact that question is being asked gives me insight into their parenting. My answer would be whatever the kid is interested in, help foster that.
Posted by YNWA
Member since Nov 2015
7241 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 2:12 pm to
It's all about the dad's living their sports dreams, or lack thereof, through their kids.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88419 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 2:13 pm to
Mom's are often worse.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
179901 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 2:13 pm to
quote:

Some of the kids just want to play ball and have fun in the summer while out of school.



Yep, and all the other kids want to beat those kids' asses figuratively speaking on the field.
Posted by Jim Smith
Member since May 2016
2915 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 2:15 pm to
How about teaching children life sports like golf or tennis that they can play when they are older or with a client. Nothing like asking a potential client if they want to go the batting cages or pad up for some one on one football...
Posted by goat
Louisiana
Member since May 2004
4288 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 2:52 pm to
Its like anything else - the general idea is that it is either very good for kids or very bad for kids - too much of an opinion all the way in one direction or another. My thought is - who am I to say what is good for a group of kids other than its good to give them proper nutrition, shelter and clothing.

I know some folks that enjoy the travel ball deal as a family, the kid seems to really enjoy it, the parents enjoy the travel together and the social interaction.

And I know/have seen some folks where it does seem a little over the top - kid does not appear to be having fun and is pretty serious about it, parents hard on them, competing though their kids and so on.

So like anything else - it has its good and its bad - some of it I see as a positive and some as a negative, but I find it improper of me to view it as what is best for kids and more so to view what is best for the kid. And it is totally wrong of me to say what is best for a kid that aint mine.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 3:01 pm to
quote:

Lots of people on here asking "if not for this what do I sign them up for?"


sarcasm....quite being so obtuse
Posted by nguyt518
Member since Apr 2015
207 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 5:58 pm to
My kid turned eight in September, and we were approached for him to play travel ball. The coach has a son that's on the team, and the coach was my old highschool baseball coach. So it's like I didn't know the guy.

The guy genuinely loves the sport, and isn't doing it for the money. He only collected enough fees for tournaments, insurance, and jerseys.

We are a travel team, but we shut it down for Rec ball (so all the other kids who don't have the option to play travel ball can have an opportunity to play)

All the rec ball coaches have an "understanding" that each team is allowed "x" amount of travel ball kids, that way no one team has an advantage.

We also shut it down for hunting season because the boys love going to the camp/hunting/fishing.

As father, academics is main priority. I will have no problem not bringing my kid to practice/missing games because his grades are slipping.

I feel bad for the kids whose parents' think they'll be the next Derek Jeter. Chances of my kid even making it to college are slim to none, but that's ok.

We'll continue to do travel ball, as well as football and golf until my kid decides to throw in the towel.


TLDR; not all travel ball parents/coaches are bad, don't let a few bad ones ruin it for the parents that put their kids in travel ball because the kid loves the sport.
This post was edited on 3/14/17 at 6:01 pm
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 6:13 pm to
That's the way it should be done.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
46960 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 6:23 pm to
A lot of kids doing it because "the other kids are doing it." Now that my kids are in high school and one about to finish it is interesting to think back about all the kids that played and where things stand. All of the kids that did other sports in addition to travel baseball played some sport in high school, most at a pretty high level. 2 of the kids that just played baseball growing up are done. On the other hand, some kids just loved playing baseball and they wanted to do it all the time. You can't fake that.

Baseball doesn't develop their athletic ability very much so I would encourage them to play something in addition to baseball and be on a team that accepts that. The vast majority turned out to be very competitive at what high school sport they play and a few will play something in college.Also tell your kid every year that they need to really enjoy it to continue doing travel ball.
Posted by Rossberg02
Member since Jun 2016
2591 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 6:46 pm to
You hit it on the head.

These psychotic parents who push their kid to one sport from the beginning and not allowing them to develop movement, spatial awareness, strength, balance, speed, and agility are doing their children a huge disservice.

I always got a kick out parents being dumbfounded why their child couldn't even make the high school team when they had invested 6-8 years in a single sport. Now what does the kid do?

Soccer and basketball aren't much better than baseball with their travel teams.


And the volume of games to the volume of practice is freaking insane. Yea lil Johnny playing right field is get a world of experience playing 7 games a week and practicing once.
Posted by KyleOrtonsMustache
Krystal Baller
Member since Jan 2008
5192 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 6:57 pm to
I teach my kid that it's better to be the owner of a pro sport franchise than to be a player for one. We practice signing payroll checks on the front not the back.

Plus, he sucks at sports.

But the little sucker is damn near a genius, so maybe it'll work out for him.
Posted by dsides
Member since Jan 2013
6176 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 7:08 pm to
quote:

Soccer and basketball aren't much better than baseball with their travel teams.


Except those two sports teach...

quote:

movement, spatial awareness, strength, balance, speed, and agility h

Posted by Rossberg02
Member since Jun 2016
2591 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 7:40 pm to
Except I was referring to them with their specialization and practice to game ratio. But yes those sports are key to those attributes
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17919 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 7:44 pm to
Just checking into this thread, and overall i feel organized sports are important to the development of children, and just like any other activity, they can be taken to extremes, and baseball seems to be the worst for this. And has anybody mentioned the increase in significant injuries with long lasting effects that are caused by overuse that is prevalent in baseball? Please stop the madness, play baseball in baseball season then get some rest play a different sport until next baseball season
Posted by Recovered
Member since May 2016
729 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 8:17 pm to
My brother has spent 300k+ since his daughter was 8 playing fast pitch. She got a juco scholarship. He wishes he could do it over and just have fun.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 8:21 pm to
quote:

It's all about the dad's living their sports dreams, or lack thereof, through their kids.


I played football in jr high and high school, I was never pushed to do it, but I did it because I knew it would make my dad happy. If asked at the time my dad would have said I enjoyed doing it and he would never have pushed me into something I didn't want to do. I didn't enjoy it, would have quit in a second, but not wanting to disappoint your dad is a powerful motivator for a kid.
Posted by Dick Leverage
In The HizHouse
Member since Nov 2013
9000 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 8:23 pm to
Most of the travel ball parents have a difficult time admitting that their own motivations play as much if not more of a role than any other factor. These are dads who lay awake in bed obsessing over how to improve their sons performance. They are more competitive than the kids in a sense. Constantly obsessing over mechanics and correction of minor flaws that are holding their kid back from achieving baseball excellence. It is a seeking of personal validation in certain ways. The moms have different motivations. They get real tied up in the social aspect of it all. Women, by nature, seem to want to show off their kid as a status symbol. They chronicle their sons baseball careers on FB and Instagram in a "look at my kid and his 2nd place fake diamond ring" and "we are sooooo proud of this young man and his travel team! Placed 2nd and got the ring! Go Bombers!" type of "in your face bitches" style.

Point of this story is to say that nobody who is posting in this thread will have a kid play MLB and that most of you are insecure rednecks living vicariously through your children. You would be better served by dumping the 9 month a year baseball and let them learn to golf as a second game. They will get way more mileage out of that as an adult.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
30440 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 8:27 pm to
Just got home from "Community Ball" practice, we are playing 10U and 3 new kids look like they've never thrown a ball.

One was adopted out of a drug infestation.

The excitement in their faces is tremendous.


Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
108721 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 8:32 pm to
Agree with the OP. I refuse to let my kids play any sports. What's the point?
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