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re: The 9-to-5 workday is choking women's progress

Posted on 7/31/18 at 3:20 pm to
Posted by NoHoTiger
So many to kill, so little time
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 7/31/18 at 3:20 pm to
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I can't tell you how many times I've had to go out of town for work because the woman who was supposed to go "couldn't leave because of her kids".

I'm a woman and always had the overnighters and out towns because I was single and didn't have kids. I also got the pleasure of working holidays when needed and staying late or weekend work because I don't have family.
Posted by Packer
IE, California
Member since May 2017
8699 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 3:21 pm to
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Christ, I'd eat a bullet if I had to work around that many women.



I worked in that environment at my last job and the only way I survived was having my own office.

The worst part was that the women always asked you to move things because they couldn't lift them
Posted by brian_wilson
Member since Oct 2016
3581 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 3:21 pm to
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why should they get special consideration for a holiday that everyone celebrates? I had family out of town and missed numerous trips to Louisiana because I had to work. Having kids shouldn't move you ahead of others without kids when it comes to things like holidays. Especially Christmas. everyone celebrates Christmas, not just moms.


I am with you but I used to ask to work holidays when we had to cover operations (IT). Although I was salary, I did get overtime pay for being on call during a holiday or actually having to work.

I have had a few new mothers work for me before. They are completely unproductive. One would take a few days off each month to take care of their sick kid. I never believed that kids was as sick as it was.
Posted by BrohemAlem11
Ratchet City, LA
Member since Oct 2014
13915 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 3:22 pm to
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When they call in sick because they have to accompany little Johnny on his school field trip.

When they call in sick because little Johnny has a cold.



This is the fricking worst. I had one employee who did shite like this at least once a week and left co-workers to pick up her slack. She was blown away when her review that year didn't result in a raise and her co-workers did. They went above and beyond covering for you and your shite...some of them were also mother who somehow managed to still be a functioning employee...mind blowing
Posted by brian_wilson
Member since Oct 2016
3581 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 3:24 pm to
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Christ, I'd eat a bullet if I had to work around that many women.


there is non stop drama. One of her co-workers has gotten THREE people fired by subterfuge including one of my wife's best friends. Another one has had 3 miscarriages this year (frick) and melts down every day.

My most active client, I probably work with 50-60% women. None of the above issues are at my client.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
36536 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 3:24 pm to
Who the frick works 9-5?
Posted by Ripley
Member since Aug 2016
4589 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 3:25 pm to
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I need to take Braidynn to the pediatrician for his gluten allergy shot.
Posted by Salmon
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 7/31/18 at 3:25 pm to
It is a simple fact.

If you choose to have children as a couple, one of the partner's career is going to suffer.

One of the parents will have to take time off for work due to sickness, routine doc appt, holidays, etc. This is just part of having a child.

You could try to split it, but then both of your jobs may suffer.

My wife took a massive pay cut when we had our daughter. Before we had our daughter, we were about equal in pay, now I make 4x her salary. It was planned that way. She is part of that "motherhood penalty" statistic, but it was a choice that we made as a couple.

If you complain about this type of thing, you should make better life decisions.
This post was edited on 7/31/18 at 3:27 pm
Posted by brian_wilson
Member since Oct 2016
3581 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 3:26 pm to
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Who the frick works 9-5?


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Member since Sep 2016
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clearly not you.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72195 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 3:26 pm to
See we didn't want to work the major holidays like Thanksgiving or Christmas. Those nights are slow as frick in a restaurant n a college town. Thankfully that was many moons ago.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
141134 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 3:29 pm to
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The 9-to-5 workday is choking women's progress


#metoo
Posted by NoHoTiger
So many to kill, so little time
Member since Nov 2006
46209 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 3:29 pm to
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Who the frick works 9-5?

My sister works 9-5 and her company buys lunch every day. But, she also has a 2 hour commute each way.

She starts her new job next Monday; 6-3:30 with every other Friday off.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72195 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 3:31 pm to
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I'm a woman and always had the overnighters and out towns because I was single and didn't have kids. I also got the pleasure of working holidays when needed and staying late or weekend work because I don't have family.



this is so fricked up. Did you ever call them out? I did. It was not received fondly.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46687 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 3:33 pm to
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clearly not you.


Hold my beer.

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Posted by Shunface
Lafayette County Detention Center
Member since Jan 2013
5567 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 3:39 pm to
:jokeyourheadgif:
Posted by Barbellthor
Columbia
Member since Aug 2015
11577 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 4:00 pm to
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when women at work have children, they may suffer a "motherhood penalty,"

No. They suffer a "reduced productivity penalty."
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resulting in lower salaries

Unfortunately, but naturally.
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and less respect in the office.

Oh, come on now. No one respects a woman less because she carried a human for nine months and gave live birth to it like a freaking wizard, then returned to work to be like the rest of us normies. It's impressive, not derided. That's crap a 5th-grader does.
Posted by yessir
Here
Member since Apr 2008
6585 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 4:14 pm to
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You could try to split it, but then both of your jobs may suffer.


Amen. My wife and I went the other way. She loves her job, and she does it very well. I'm good at mine, but I have no real passion for it. Her ceiling is higher than mine. So when our kids need to stay home/go to the doctor, I'm falling on that grenade.
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
17893 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 4:20 pm to
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This is the fricking worst. I had one employee who did shite like this at least once a week and left co-workers to pick up her slack. She was blown away when her review that year didn't result in a raise and her co-workers did. They went above and beyond covering for you and your shite...some of them were also mother who somehow managed to still be a functioning employee...mind blowing

Had a similar situation in my department with three women. Always taking time off, or coming and going as they pleased. Never attempted to make up hours and dumped their responsibilities on others because they "didn't have time".

Holiday bonuses get paid out and these three women get nothing. They attempted to bitch up a storm about unfair treatment until three of the senior executives (two of them women) essentially told them to STFU.
Posted by RedPop4
Santiago de Compostela
Member since Jan 2005
15329 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 4:22 pm to
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bullshite. This has been debunked so many fricking times and these hack journalists still push it.

Wrong. They're not really hack journalists, they aren't even journalists any longer. They keep pushing this out, because it forwards the agenda of their beliefs, and the gullible lap it up.
Posted by NoHoTiger
So many to kill, so little time
Member since Nov 2006
46209 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 4:33 pm to
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Did you ever call them out?

Not really much I could do. I eventually just got a new job.
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