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re: The 9-to-5 workday is choking women's progress

Posted on 7/31/18 at 2:48 pm to
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91873 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 2:48 pm to
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Studies show that when women at work have children, they may suffer a "motherhood penalty," resulting in lower salaries and less respect in the office.


lolwut?

My wife just used her last sick day for the year last week. My kids have had a rough go of it in 2018. If she has to take time off to care for them again this year, it will use up the rest of her vacation or she won't get paid at all. Neither of us think that's unfair. The majority of her coworkers are mothers, and she's probably the most reliable of the group, but a person without kids would likely be more reliable. At no point would she try to argue that's unfair or a penalty.
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
29735 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 2:52 pm to
2 out of the 3 managers in my group are women. The one guy manager is a pansy who got the gig in the 90’s. Our director is a woman. Our AVP is a woman. If you don’t have a pussy, dont suck dick, and have white skin, you are the last choice for advancement (I.e if you are a straight white man you are garbage).
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86707 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 2:54 pm to
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you don’t have a pussy, dont suck dick, and have white skin, you are the last choice for advancement (I.e if you are a straight white man you are garbage).


*looks around office and sees nothing but white males

Posted by celltech1981
Member since Jul 2014
8139 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 2:55 pm to
give more flex time options to everybody
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
46608 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 2:55 pm to
First they were pissed about not having jobs. Now they they work too long.

Can’t ever stop complaining can they.
This post was edited on 7/31/18 at 2:56 pm
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91873 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 2:56 pm to
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2 out of the 3 managers in my group are women. The one guy manager is a pansy who got the gig in the 90’s. Our director is a woman. Our AVP is a woman. If you don’t have a pussy, dont suck dick, and have white skin, you are the last choice for advancement (I.e if you are a straight white man you are garbage).


^ This is the same mentality that women/minorities have in most offices. Congrats.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139218 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 2:57 pm to
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give more flex time options to everybody

If you're working in a field that requires constant communication in a team setting, then that would be a complete disaster.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139218 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 3:00 pm to
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First they were pissed about not having jobs. Now they they work too long.

Can’t ever stop complaining can they.



We broke the glass ceiling!











...can someone clean up that broken glass? I don't really have time. I need to take Braidynn to the pediatrician for his gluten allergy shot.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72195 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 3:01 pm to
I waited tables in college. We could ask off various holidays, but you weren't going to always get them off because some holidays are busy at restaurants and they simply need a staff.

So you have to choose which holidays. The women with kids always got to pick first, because they had kids I guess? Such a crock of fricking bullshite. I can't tell you how many dudes ended up working on some shitty holiday because of all the teen/early 20s moms who made bad life decisions got first dibs. I guess childless people don't give a frick about enjoying Christmas eve with family.
Posted by celltech1981
Member since Jul 2014
8139 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 3:03 pm to
that if isn't always the case.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139218 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 3:06 pm to
I don't really mind that they get special consideration due to their children, but don't turn around and bitch about a pay gap or unfair policies after you get preferential treatment over the men.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72195 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 3:08 pm to
why should they get special consideration for a holiday that everyone celebrates? I had family out of town and missed numerous trips to Louisiana because I had to work. Having kids shouldn't move you ahead of others without kids when it comes to things like holidays. Especially Christmas. everyone celebrates Christmas, not just moms.
This post was edited on 7/31/18 at 3:11 pm
Posted by mauser
Orange Beach
Member since Nov 2008
27613 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 3:11 pm to
When they call in sick because they have to accompany little Johnny on his school field trip.

When they call in sick because little Johnny has a cold.

I had to work with BS like that at one time in my life.
Posted by Packer
IE, California
Member since May 2017
8699 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 3:12 pm to
quote:

it'd be nice to have more companies offer flex time or work from home type of stuff to mothers.



How about fathers? I would love to stay home and work while taking care of my son
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
32130 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 3:14 pm to
quote:

they may suffer a "motherhood penalty," resulting in lower salaries and less respect in the office.


Simple solution: don't have children

Posted by Styxion
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2012
1738 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 3:15 pm to
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liberating women from strict work environments can make employees happier


Liberating anyone from a strict work environment would make them happier. I'd love to be able to leave the office and still get my work done but my job doesn't allow it so I make do.
Posted by brian_wilson
Member since Oct 2016
3581 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 3:16 pm to
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it'd be nice to have more companies offer flex time or work from home type of stuff to mothers.


or to all their employees.

My wife works at a place that is 75% female with lots of mothers of young children. Everyone gets the perks that the mothers do, which is the way to do it.

She works from home 2-3x per week, and can work remotely when she likes. Her boss let her work from new orleans for a month, and in mexico for two weeks.
Posted by BrohemAlem11
Ratchet City, LA
Member since Oct 2014
13915 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 3:17 pm to
we want things to be equal....but we shouldn't have to do as much! OUTRAGE!
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139218 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 3:18 pm to
quote:

My wife works at a place that is 75% female with lots of mothers of young children

Christ, I'd eat a bullet if I had to work around that many women.
Posted by Groovie
San Diego,California
Member since Aug 2013
460 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 3:19 pm to
Equality has consequences. Who knew?
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