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re: Teen Tased By Trooper On Girlfriend's Porch

Posted on 6/23/21 at 11:02 am to
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 6/23/21 at 11:02 am to
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in broad daylight? Let’s say it is probable cause to stop him. Once he was given a plausible explanation, it would have taken him a minute or two of restraint to find out if the kids was a criminal or not. He was under no threat and the use of force was absolutely unnecessary.


Exactly.

I never said I supported the dude getting tased. However, he certainly didnt help himself by just telling the trooper "frick you" right off the bat.

Just answer the troopers questions and say the gf will be outside in a minute to clear everything up.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54853 posts
Posted on 6/23/21 at 11:02 am to
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I would hope that a cop wouldn't try to detain someone who is visiting me just because they are wearing black clothes.

The cop doesn’t know. That guy could be the look out for terrorist firing a nuclear missile from inside your house. Shoot first and then figure it out. The cop might be in danger at some point if some highly improbable series of events might also be taking place.
This post was edited on 6/23/21 at 11:03 am
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
17695 posts
Posted on 6/23/21 at 11:02 am to
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The surveillance video of the arrest was not provided to or seen by the judge before initially appearing in court. Right now, Jack is still in jail where he’ll remain for 21 days.
Honestly, this is more screwed up than the tasing.

Because of this cops mistake, this kid is in jail, even though there wasn't any illegal activity happening.


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Brown was surprised the teen was only originally charged with the odd traffic charge and resisting arrest. There is a Florida statute that says you can detain someone under loitering and prowling to determine if their reason to be there is lawful.

A day after the original arrest, FHP added a loitering and prowling charge and updated that original narrative.

The trooper still arrested the kid even after the girlfriend comes out. I don't know if there's more to the story, but being arrested for resisting arrest should not be a thing.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
32888 posts
Posted on 6/23/21 at 11:02 am to
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As a reminder to anyone just joining the thread, the incident here involved a dickhead teen trying to get his girlfriend to let him in. That might not be obvious from the above multiple rape and murder discussion.


Ok, I chuckled. Take your upvote and frick off
Posted by MMauler
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Member since Jun 2013
24487 posts
Posted on 6/23/21 at 11:04 am to
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It's not a crime to go into the backyard of a friend's house. He had permission to be there.



Like I said above, I really hope one day some 6' "kid" sees a cop patrolling your neighborhood and then ducks into your backyard and then the cop does absof*ckinglutlely NOTHING.

And, if your wife and daughter just happened to get raped and murdered by this "poor innocent kid who was just texting" on private property that he may or may not have had permission to be on (the cop has no f*cking way of knowing), I want you to come back here and tell us all that you are completely satisfied that the cop acted appropriately because, AS FAR AS THE COP KNOWS, the "kid" had every right to act suspiciously, dress like your standard/typical home invader, and duck into your backyard when he saw the cop patrolling your neighborhood.
This post was edited on 6/23/21 at 11:11 am
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 6/23/21 at 11:04 am to
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On Girlfriend's Porch
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87377 posts
Posted on 6/23/21 at 11:05 am to
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And, if your wife and daughter just happened to get raped and murdered by this "poor innocent kid who was just texting"


FFS how many rapes and murders occur in this hypothetical neighborhood
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
32888 posts
Posted on 6/23/21 at 11:05 am to
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The trooper still arrested the kid even after the girlfriend comes out. I don't know if there's more to the story, but being arrested for resisting arrest should not be a thing.


Standard operating procedure for law enforcement to tack on charges when they frick up. They then ride the ADA to get a conviction for "anything" to give them coverage for their behavior. I've never seen LEOs more angry in court than when an ADA dismisses a resisting case involving a situation in which they beat the shite out of someone.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54853 posts
Posted on 6/23/21 at 11:05 am to
What I can tell from this thread, is that you are far more dangerous to a free and just society than the kid in this story.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
92264 posts
Posted on 6/23/21 at 11:05 am to
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Jack is still in jail where he’ll remain for 21 days.


didn't get that part, based on what's in the video, he didn't physically resist, just didn't put his hands behind his back, what's the charge? and how could there be no bail for something this innocuous? if anything the cop should be charged
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37063 posts
Posted on 6/23/21 at 11:06 am to
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Like I said above, I really hope one day some 6' "kid" sees a cop patrolling your neighborhood and then ducks into your backyard and then does absof*ckinglutlely NOTHING.

And, if your wife and daughter just happened to get raped and murdered by this "poor innocent kid who was just texting" on private property that he may or may not have had permission to be on (the cop has no f*cking way of knowing), I want you to come back here and tell us all that you are completely satisfied that the cop acted appropriately because, AS FAR AS THE COP KNOWS, the "kid" have every right to act suspiciously, dress like your standard/typical home invader, and duck into your backyard when he saw the cop patrolling your neighborhood.
You are a fricking insane person. Do you really live your life in fear of the above scenario?
Posted by Iron Lion
Romulus
Member since Nov 2014
13997 posts
Posted on 6/23/21 at 11:07 am to
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He was given a direct command and ignored it.



Listen bootlicker, unless I'm breaking the law you can shove your commands up your arse.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87377 posts
Posted on 6/23/21 at 11:07 am to
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Standard operating procedure for law enforcement to tack on charges when they frick up. They then ride the ADA to get a conviction for "anything" to give them coverage for their behavior. I've never seen LEOs more angry in court than when an ADA dismisses a resisting case involving a situation in which they beat the shite out of someone.



*hits pedestrian with patrol car*

"add breaking and entering and destruction of property"
Posted by MMauler
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Member since Jun 2013
24487 posts
Posted on 6/23/21 at 11:08 am to
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Once he was given a plausible explanation, it would have taken him a minute or two of restraint to find out if the kids was a criminal or not.


That's EXACTLY what the f*ck he was trying to do -- and do it by using a NONLETHAL means.



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He was under no threat and the use of force was absolutely unnecessary.


How in the f*ck do you know that? And, more importantly, how in the f*ck was the cop suppose to know that? How the cop suppose to know who this thug was texting and where they were? He was given a COMPLETELY F*CKING REASONABLE command that would have completely defused the situation. The girlfriend would have came outside and explained. Even then, the cop would have asked her to prove that she was the owner of the home and that they weren't accomplices.

This cop acted MORE THAN REASONABLY given the totality of the facts.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
91528 posts
Posted on 6/23/21 at 11:09 am to
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Like I said above, I really hope one day some 6' "kid"
Bro are you angry that you’re short af?
Posted by mmonro3
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2013
4239 posts
Posted on 6/23/21 at 11:09 am to
You must be a crazy person
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
91528 posts
Posted on 6/23/21 at 11:10 am to
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That's EXACTLY what the f*ck he was trying to do -- and do it by using a NONLETHAL means.


What a way to figure out what people are doing
Posted by swolverine
Member since Jun 2020
1966 posts
Posted on 6/23/21 at 11:11 am to
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This post was edited on 7/17/21 at 10:20 am
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
115462 posts
Posted on 6/23/21 at 11:12 am to
pretty sure that kid has some spinal issues after hitting that fire pit.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54853 posts
Posted on 6/23/21 at 11:12 am to
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How in the f*ck do you know that? And, more importantly, how in the f*ck was the cop suppose to know that?
Because it’s on video and plain as day.

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How the cop suppose to know who this thug was texting and where they were?
Texting isn’t a threat that justifies use of force regardless of how many ridiculous, implausible scenarios you think up. Cops can’t use force based on imaginary or unlikely unknowns.
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