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re: Storm Watch- Gulf- Tropical Depression- Northward Miss. Valley

Posted on 6/2/20 at 12:58 pm to
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 6/2/20 at 12:58 pm to


Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 6/2/20 at 12:59 pm to
Great cone.

ETA: I screenshoted it so we can compare to later cones.
This post was edited on 6/2/20 at 1:04 pm
Posted by GEAUXmedic
Premium Member
Member since Nov 2011
42053 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 1:05 pm to
ICON is bullish on strength, track seems about right in line with the TVCN.

My yearly explanation:

The TVCN is what the NHC typically follows, or is very close to.

A lagged average of the last two runs of the members within the TCON plus the ECMWF model is known as the TVCN consensus.
The TCON consensus is the GUNA consensus plus the Hurricane WRF model.
The GUNA model is a consensus of the interpolated versions of the HMON, UKMET with quality control applied to the cyclone tracker, United States Navy NAVGEM, and GFS models.

So the TVCN involves the ECMWF, HWRF, HMON, UKMET, NAVGEM, and GFS.

This post was edited on 6/2/20 at 1:06 pm
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
50773 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 1:12 pm to
The Euro is running right now and it'll be interesting to see where and how strong of a landfall it gives it. We can discuss and downplay models all day but the Euro has always performed very well and should never be discounted.
Posted by LurkerTooLong
Lakeview, NOLA
Member since Aug 2016
1954 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 1:12 pm to
The UKM must be run by Falcons fans.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
177356 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 1:13 pm to
The water in the northern gulf is a lot cooler this time of the year compared to August and September. Even July. So that could hold it down in strength some.
Posted by slinger1317
Northshore
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 6/2/20 at 1:14 pm to
Living in LA I'm glad to see the early models squaring us up. Seems like wherever they initially think it will land always winds up not even being close to actual landfall.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
50773 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 1:16 pm to
quote:

The water in the northern gulf is a lot cooler this time of the year compared to August and September. Even July. So that could hold it down in strength some.

True, we're likely not going to be looking down the barrel of a category 3 or higher hurricane here BUT the gulf is still much warmer than normal for this time of year (or at least it has been the last couple months - I admittedly haven't checked that stat in the last few weeks). A category 1 or even low-end 2 is not out of the question if the shear backs off a bit and that's still much stronger than most June storms.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 6/2/20 at 1:16 pm to
quote:

early models squaring us up



well if there's anything we learned in the last few months, its that models are very dependable.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
177356 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 1:16 pm to
Not to neck beard actually you but they pretty much nailed Gustav, Isaac, and Barry days and days out. If Louisiana gets one they’ve been pretty good days out with our last few storms.
Posted by Fat Fingers
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 6/2/20 at 1:17 pm to
Definitely time to sticky now.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
50773 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 1:19 pm to
So far the 12z Euro has the center roughly 80-100 miles east on Thursday night from it's previous run at the same time. I'm wondering if it's going to put landfall somewhere between Lake Charles and Lafayette now, assuming everything else falls into place? This run should be interesting to watch.


Edited:
Yep, much further east. Landfall is in Vermilion Bay as a strong cat 1.




This post was edited on 6/2/20 at 1:31 pm
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 6/2/20 at 1:20 pm to
quote:

Definitely time to sticky now.

Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
Posted by Anaximander
3524 Third St New Orleans, LA
Member since Jun 2018
3412 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 1:25 pm to
Is there any way this does bot end yo hitting New Orleans?

This is 2020 so it is inevitable. Especially considering we are running backup generators 24/7 on pumps because they cannot fix the primary generators.

Posted by lsugolfredman
Member since Jun 2005
1941 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 1:25 pm to
986 mb on High Resolution Euro.

ETA: 979 mb landfall at Morgan City Monday morning
This post was edited on 6/2/20 at 1:30 pm
Posted by TheWiz
Third World, LA
Member since Aug 2007
11886 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 1:34 pm to
How about that mid-west/Canadian blaster going through?

Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
50773 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 1:34 pm to
quote:

ETA: 979 mb landfall at Morgan City Monday morning

May be time to test generators this week if the Euro holds that for the next couple days.

The Destroya is gonna love all the attention.
This post was edited on 6/2/20 at 1:36 pm
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
50773 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 1:35 pm to
quote:

How about that mid-west/Canadian blaster going through?

I believe that is part of the reason for the sharp increase in speed northward.
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 1:37 pm to
That's after a crawl along the coast. UKMet pulled a similar move, but with what would be Dolly and starting well east of the rest of them. Gets to about the LA coast, turns west slowly and eventually lifts up Morgan Cityish.

Oddly end up very similar despite it being two different systems, but similar pressure and movement.

We got two troughs, one up in New England and a big one out west. Ridge builds in between them. The two models end up slamming the north movement down as the ridge builds in, slide west slowly under it, and then catches an opening as the western trough progresses east.
Posted by Zephyrius
Wharton, La.
Member since Dec 2004
9574 posts
Posted on 6/2/20 at 1:39 pm to
quote:

I'd be surprised if it reaches CAT 1 strength

The way they are all trending a CAT 1 would not be a surprise. A CAT 3 would be a surprise but a 1 or even 2 not so much.
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