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re: Starbase Louisiana-tax incentives

Posted on 9/3/26 at 10:42 am to
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
184905 posts
Posted on 9/3/26 at 10:42 am to
Man, you convinced me. That Elon Musk is such a failure
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79977 posts
Posted on 9/3/26 at 10:43 am to
I think arguing over how many space flights is pedantic.

Unless somehow you relate that to tax dollars or something for this discussion.

For nearby residents it is a noise issue I would assume.
Posted by BadatBourre
Member since Jan 2019
1393 posts
Posted on 9/3/26 at 10:45 am to
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$100 billion facility


$200 Billion will end up being the closer cost.
Posted by Kingpenm3
Xanadu
Member since Aug 2011
9987 posts
Posted on 9/3/26 at 10:53 am to
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Or that land could sit there producing nothing and being taxed at the very low agricultural or conservation property tax rates



Would it even collect tax since the state owns it? The state sat on the Monroe Meta site for nearly 20 years.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79977 posts
Posted on 9/3/26 at 10:56 am to
The net cost/benefit needs positive tax revenue to makes sense.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
30021 posts
Posted on 9/3/26 at 11:01 am to
I am honestly somewhat torn on the SpaceX near Pecan Island thing, though if everything that’s laid out happens, it should be a HUGE bonus to the Acadiana economy, and for me personally, hopefully UL as well. So overall, I like it.

However, I have been wondering…if the players here, instead of Elon Musk and Jeff Landry, were say…Jeff Bezo and his Blue Origin rockets and Mitch Landrieu as Governor…would many of the same folks who are currently in support of the project be against it, and would many of those railing against it be for it?

Mostly what I gathered from the article itself is much of the same we always hear from these groups when a large plant builds in Louisiana and stuff like that. I guess Jan Moller decided to rebrand her “Project Louisiana” NGO as “Invest in Louisiana”?
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
60370 posts
Posted on 9/3/26 at 11:03 am to
27 billion in tax cuts to get 27 billion Indians in Louisiana



Jeff Landry better watch out the h1bs are gonna make Bobby jindal governor again
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
40604 posts
Posted on 9/3/26 at 11:07 am to
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That Elon Musk is such a failure


Wait till he sees the uf football hire.
This post was edited on 9/3/26 at 11:08 am
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
17269 posts
Posted on 9/3/26 at 11:10 am to
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SpaceX will still pay $25 million yearly to the parish


That's a lot of shrimp boots.
Posted by SWLA92
SWLA
Member since Feb 2015
5222 posts
Posted on 9/3/26 at 11:12 am to
Do we know for sure they will be building rockets here? I’ve seen some reports that maybe they will build them in Texas and barge them over
Posted by CollegeFBRules
Member since Oct 2008
25802 posts
Posted on 9/3/26 at 11:14 am to
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Tax breaks are one thing. The State literally paying 1/4 of employee salaries is something different that just feels wrong.


State does it for apprenticeships at your major oil and gas companies already.
Posted by FOBW
N.O.
Member since Sep 2016
528 posts
Posted on 9/3/26 at 11:18 am to
I think the difference here is that SpaceX has been launching a lot of rockets. Blue Origin not so much. So I think this has a better chance of becoming a really big deal with a piece of critical infrastructure in south Louisiana.

Politicians, I don’t trust any of them.

Hopefully, the people in that area can have good paying jobs so that they can support their families and build a better future for the area.
Posted by Rendevoustavern
Member since May 2018
1962 posts
Posted on 9/3/26 at 11:24 am to
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The first people to walk on Mars may come from a rocket from Louisiana


Wonder how Boudreaux and Thibodeaux will fit in with the martians.
Posted by glassman
Next to the beer taps at Finn's
Member since Oct 2008
118636 posts
Posted on 9/3/26 at 11:25 am to
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Wonder how Boudreaux and Thibodeaux will fit in with the martians.


There will be a roux.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86780 posts
Posted on 9/3/26 at 11:25 am to
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State does it for apprenticeships at your major oil and gas companies already.


Still doesn't make it feel less wrong.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
106229 posts
Posted on 9/3/26 at 11:38 am to
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if the players here, instead of Elon Musk and Jeff Landry, were say…Jeff Bezo and his Blue Origin rockets and Mitch Landrieu as Governor…would many of the same folks who are currently in support of the project be against it, and would many of those railing against it be for it?


Nobody likes Bezos, so probably not.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41747 posts
Posted on 9/3/26 at 12:10 pm to
Incentives are all about options and return.

Would another state have worked for SpaceX? And how much would that other state have given them?

And covering a portion of salaries is a problem for me. That’s an actual cost. Are we going to make that up in increased tax revenue?

I don’t mind forgiving some taxes but we are paying costs here.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
17891 posts
Posted on 9/3/26 at 12:33 pm to
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The largest incentive is SpaceX not paying property taxes, which they value at neatly $24 billion but as mentioned SpaceX will still pay $25 million yearly to the parish and that can be inflation-adjusted.
$24 billion is a very rough estimate, but those payments wouldn't start until the facility is built and operating, and ITEP would still cut the amount by another 80%.
This post was edited on 9/3/26 at 12:34 pm
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
43617 posts
Posted on 9/3/26 at 12:34 pm to
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It would still be sitting there producing nothing in 25 years if it weren't for SpaceX,


Any idea on what the legacy lawsuit settlement could have been?
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
17891 posts
Posted on 9/3/26 at 12:39 pm to
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Any idea on what the legacy lawsuit settlement could have been?

I think Exxon gave up ownership of the land to Vermilion Parish, and Space X will be leasing the land. Similar to what they're doing in Donaldsonville.
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