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re: St Louis: Unarmed teen shot and killed by police, riot in progress.

Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:00 am to
Posted by TigerHam85
59-024 Kamehameha Highway
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Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:00 am to
you have arrived.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
134990 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:01 am to
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Robbery and shoplifting are the same thing, taking property.



You are acting like slobbering imbecile.

words have meaning!
Robbery and shoplifting and burglary are all DIFFERENT things. All involve taking property unlawfully but the similarities stop there.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85738 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:01 am to
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which doesn't seem like a lot of time to take a report interview witnesses and review tape?


Is that how you think police work when immediately looking for a suspect? They take time to review the tape and then go out looking?

The clerk and apparently another witness inside of the store gave officers a description of the suspect. From what he was wearing, it doesn't seem like there would be a ton of potential suspects.

Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
108674 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:01 am to
he was just a pooor innocent kid. the cops assasinated him. end of story...

--signed Obama and CNN
Posted by quail man
New York, NY
Member since May 2010
41261 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:01 am to
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This is just another case of making judgments with little info. The cop may have been justified in his actions...let's wait and see.



Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
129657 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:01 am to
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It's obvious that most people consider robbery as something that is done by threatening violence or actual violence. You are bringing up legal definitions. That's great, but that's not what most people mean when they say "robbery" vs "shoplifting."

Well, I started with simple dictionary definitions. I can't help it they can't read.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74853 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:01 am to
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Robbery and shoplifting are the same thing, taking property.




No.

Shoplifting is theft. Theft is stealing from someone not in the presence or to the knowledge of the property owner.

Robbery is theft from a person directly. If I break in your house and steal your TV, that is theft.
If I break into your house while you are watching TV, and then force you to give me ownership of the TV that is robbery.

Robbery is a felony
Simple theft is a misdemeanor.

HUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGEEEEE difference.
Posted by GEAUXmedic
Premium Member
Member since Nov 2011
42053 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:01 am to
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I know I don't, thats the police should be more forthcoming in their information



The police will release info when they feel its right. You aren't owed anything from them as far as information goes.
Posted by bayou2003
Mah-zur-ree (417)
Member since Oct 2003
17646 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:01 am to
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I believe the incident at the store occurred around 11:30-11:35 which doesn't seem like a lot of time to take a report interview witnesses and review tape?



no

from 11:48-noon the officer was on a sick call, with ambulance, at 11:51 there was a call of a robbery, and 11:52 disp gave description, different officer arrived at store, further description was given, state suspect was walking toward quiktrip, officer left sick call, encountered MB at 12:01, after the shooting at 12:04 a second officer arrived, at 12:05 a sup was dispatched.


All I can say is the STL area have dumb criminals. Usually when people rob a place they RUN, RUN and hide for a few minutes. Not walk down the street as if nothing happened. Maybe they were on something.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
129657 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:02 am to
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All involve taking property unlawfully but the similarities stop there.

You can shoplift and be charged with robbery. Yes? Yes. Thanks. If you want to argue with me just to prove I'm wrong, feel free to continue. But you're wrong.
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
67227 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:02 am to
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This is just another case of making judgments with little info. The cop may have been justified in his actions...let's wait and see.



You'd think people would have learned after Trayvon.

That shite looked real bad for Zimm in the onset, but after more info came it it obviously wasn't so clear. I think that will happen here.

I'd hope there are some impartial witnesses or some sort of camera feed. Should be interesting.
Posted by pankReb
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Member since Mar 2009
73284 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:03 am to
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Um if you punch a cop in the face, they can shoot you. But that doesn't mean shooting at them over 5 times



um...no


If it's acceptable to shoot someone one time....it's acceptable to empty your magazine. You don't shoot to warn or injure. You only shoot to kill. Say you shoot someone that is a threat to you only once. Then he pulls out a gun and shoots you in the head.

That makes you the dumb shite that only shot him once. You continue firing until the threat is no more.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25492 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:03 am to
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I believe the incident at the store occurred around 11:30-11:35 which doesn't seem like a lot of time to take a report interview witnesses and review tape?

Why don't one of you OT geniuses prove a police cover up and become internationally famous


The report is meaningless. The pictures of the physical confrontation are what are important and don't lie.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
129657 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:03 am to
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Robbery is theft from a person directly. If I break in your house and steal your TV, that is theft. If I break into your house while you are watching TV, and then force you to give me ownership of the TV that is robbery.

A person doesn't have to be there for it to be a robbery.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
110475 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:04 am to
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let's wait and see


If only our President had this much common sense.

Healthcare.org would have had a better launch as well.
Posted by GEAUXmedic
Premium Member
Member since Nov 2011
42053 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:04 am to
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Fox 2 confirmed that there are Darren Wilsons in both the Ferguson Police Dept. and the St Louis Metro Police:

slmpd's Sgt. Wilson is the president of the Ethical Society of Police. @SLMPD now fear for his safety. #STL

"Darren Wilson is a six year veteran of the Ferguson Police Department. Police said he had no history of discipline. Wilson was treated for injuries after the incident."
This post was edited on 8/15/14 at 10:04 am
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74853 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:04 am to
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Exactly I'm saying shopping lifting doesn't justify the shooting



It doesn't

But at first I felt bad for the young man who was shot without cause.

I don't shed a tear for a dead robber. frick a thief. Only part of Sharia law I agree with is the cutting of limbs of thieves.

Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
37895 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:05 am to
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(It also doesn't look like he's robbing the store from the photos. He looks to be standing in an intimidating manner with his hat cocked to the side.)


So why does the other guy look scared?
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
67227 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:05 am to
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Fox 2 confirmed that there are Darren Wilsons in both the Ferguson Police Dept. and the St Louis Metro Police:
slmpd's Sgt. Wilson is the president of the Ethical Society of Police. @SLMPD now fear for his safety. #STL
"Darren Wilson is a six year veteran of the Ferguson Police Department. Police said he had no history of discipline. Wilson was treated for injuries after the incident


That poor other Darren Wilson. I hope SPD gave him a weeks paid vacation and some tickets out of town so he could get away from the madness.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85738 posts
Posted on 8/15/14 at 10:06 am to
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Sgt. Wilson is the president of the Ethical Society of Police. @SLMPD now fear for his safety.


This dude should sue the Chief of Police for not making it explicitly clear at his conference that there are two Darren Wilson within St Louis and he was not the one.
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