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re: Southwest Airlines removes boy living with autism and his family from flight over mask

Posted on 8/14/20 at 11:19 am to
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
22286 posts
Posted on 8/14/20 at 11:19 am to
A little surprised the cut off age is 2.
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Southwest flight from Midland, Texas, to Houston, Texas
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The Monday flight had left the gate in Midland, but the plane turned around when it became clear the child was not going to wear a mask during the journey
They should have caught this before the family entered the tunnel to the plane, at the very least as they were walking onto the plane. But, at this point it probably would have been quicker to just continue with the flight, is that even 1 hour in the air?
This post was edited on 8/14/20 at 11:19 am
Posted by Nynna11
Member since Jul 2012
583 posts
Posted on 8/14/20 at 11:27 am to
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My gripe is with illogical policies, not the minutiae


My point would be that it is their company, so they have the right to set the policy.
If you own a business, you should have the right to set policy for that company and expect others to comply with that well publicized policy without playing victim and going to the media. If you don’t agree with it, just patronize another business.
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33655 posts
Posted on 8/14/20 at 11:31 am to
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my special needs son (C.P. and autism) is 9 and I can't get him to wear a mask.

guess what? I don't take him places that require masks


we have a spectrum kiddo with SPD......you'd have better luck riding Tornado for 8sec than have him wear a mask.

it's a fricking bear, but if they are going to have to fly, they need to research (and call) businesses to ensure they can be accomodated vs just showing up.

Is what it is.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
178377 posts
Posted on 8/14/20 at 11:35 am to
It’s pretty fricking stupid planes turn around for this. Fly to the destination and deal with it there.
Posted by lsu1919
Member since May 2017
3244 posts
Posted on 8/14/20 at 11:43 am to
All these kids are “on the spectrum”.

That’s code for shitty parents.

Posted by Box Geauxrilla
Member since Jun 2013
19221 posts
Posted on 8/14/20 at 11:47 am to
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All these kids are “on the spectrum”.

That’s code for shitty parents.

Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
291712 posts
Posted on 8/14/20 at 11:57 am to
Say his name
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91874 posts
Posted on 8/14/20 at 12:04 pm to
No one has any issues with SW here, but god forbid Rouse’s asks you to wear one.
Posted by MeridianDog
Home on the range
Member since Nov 2010
14539 posts
Posted on 8/14/20 at 12:37 pm to

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Kind of an a-hole thing for Southwest to do, but it's well within their right to do so.


Let me fix this for you.

Kind of an prudent thing for Southwest to do, and it's well within their obligation to do so.
This post was edited on 8/14/20 at 12:40 pm
Posted by Pooturd
Knoxville
Member since Mar 2020
1258 posts
Posted on 8/14/20 at 12:41 pm to
Choosing to wear a mask is far and away the most autistic course of action possible honesty lol y’all are gay
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
14600 posts
Posted on 8/14/20 at 12:43 pm to
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What’s the functional difference, with concern for the virus, between a 2 yo and a 3 yo?


I agree, and this applies to really any age specific restriction (alcohol, tobacco, etc).

Seems like it would be easier for SWA to let them take the like 30 minute flight instead of having it blow up like this. I don't disagree with SWA enforcing their rules, just seems from a purely cost/benefit PR standpoint this wasn't the best choice.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
23422 posts
Posted on 8/14/20 at 12:47 pm to
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I mean, the rules are clear

Hope SW doesnt apologize


I agreed with this until I saw he was 3 y/o. I don’t think an apology is necessary but some kids that age would be impossible to keep a mask on them. Particularly one with autism. You make that age 4 or 5 and there are no excuses.

Posted by CWS91
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2005
1210 posts
Posted on 8/14/20 at 3:11 pm to
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These are the same parents that will allow their child to throw a loud and extended fit in a sit-down restaurant and be ready to fight anyone that thinks they should take the child outside.

Does the mask rule make sense? I do not care. It is the SW rule and some special needs parents "get off" on this kind of attention whore crap.

On a side note, with a large number of kids on the spectrum the parents are the bigger problem than the child in the child'd lack of ability to function in a social setting. They think you cannot instill ANY discipline or have any expectations on an autistic child and that is only true in a very small percentage of cases.


I wish all special needs parents like yourself had this all figured out like you do.
Posted by SECdragonmaster
Order of the Dragons
Member since Dec 2013
17460 posts
Posted on 8/14/20 at 3:48 pm to
I agree that it is dumb for the parents to try and fly with that rule in place.

However, developmental and chronological age are a different issue in Autism Spectrum Disorders and Intellectual Disabilities.
Posted by TigerMomma4
Member since Mar 2020
471 posts
Posted on 8/14/20 at 3:49 pm to
Biggest question to me that the article doesn't address is when was the flight TO Midland? This is about the RETURN flight. It appears that there was no issue on the first flight, and quite possibly the boy was not forced to wear a mask. If the first flight was before July 27th, when exceptions were allowed, and they changed the rules before the return flight, it's on SW to get them home.
Posted by Pintail
Member since Nov 2011
12162 posts
Posted on 8/14/20 at 3:55 pm to
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Nothing is misapplied on this board more than ADA except maybe HIPPA


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misapplied


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HIPPA


Ironic
Posted by Slagathor
Makin' jokes about your teeny tiny
Member since Jul 2007
39024 posts
Posted on 8/14/20 at 3:56 pm to
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TigerMomma4
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I'm a non-masker. If it becomes mandatory, I'll claim medical reason not to (I am slightly claustrophobic and it is difficult to breath wearing one). If that is not an option, for example I may be flying soon for business (and I'll gladly hop on a plane without any fear ... other than potentially crashing), I'll make one out of thin netting, or maybe order one I saw made from beads (ala belly dancer style). It would be equally effective as a bandana, and much easier to breath in.
Posted by X82ndTiger
USA
Member since Sep 2004
2542 posts
Posted on 8/14/20 at 4:39 pm to
Such an awkward title to your post.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13945 posts
Posted on 8/14/20 at 4:54 pm to
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All these kids are “on the spectrum”.

That’s code for shitty parents.

Is "lsu1919" code for a shitty person? What an ignorant comment.
Posted by pochejp
Gonzales, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2007
8138 posts
Posted on 8/14/20 at 5:02 pm to
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Southwest Airlines removed a passenger and her 3-year-old son from a Monday flight after the boy, who has autism, refused to wear a face mask and became upset. Passenger Alyssa Sadler, who was also traveling with her 1-year-old daughter, told KPRC that the family was deplaned from the Southwest flight from Midland, Texas, to Houston, Texas. "It was just not a good morning," said Sadler. "He was screaming. He was throwing a fit. He was screaming no, no, no."


Well then drive the kid. Nobody wants to hear a screaming kid on a plane. Flying on commercial flights isn't a right. Private companies have rules and expect you to follow them. Driving from Midland to Houston isn't the end of the world.
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