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re: South Mississippi groups sound alarm on potential Bonnet Carre Spillway opening
Posted on 4/23/25 at 11:04 am to Riverside
Posted on 4/23/25 at 11:04 am to Riverside
All this is a pathological facade. They could give a shite less about the animals that reside there.
You know why you sometimes see dead black drum floating on the shoreline in the marsh? Commercial fishermen kill them. I have seen it first hand.
Would not be surprised if they kill dolphins that get trapped in the nets of shrimp boats either.
You know why you sometimes see dead black drum floating on the shoreline in the marsh? Commercial fishermen kill them. I have seen it first hand.
Would not be surprised if they kill dolphins that get trapped in the nets of shrimp boats either.
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Posted on 4/23/25 at 11:15 am to ragincajun03
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He sent a letter to the Corps of Engineers that highlighted the 153 bottlenose dolphin deaths that were attributed to freshwater toxicity.
“When they start dying, we know the ecosystem that supported them is gone,” Solangi explained. “And once they are gone, guess who is next? You and me.”
SO he has documentation of 153 human lives lost in direct correlation to the 153 dolphins? If not I would say his assertion is hyperbole at best if not just plain old fashioned bullshite...
Posted on 4/23/25 at 11:16 am to 0x15E
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Porpoise prices are going to be through the roof!
First you make a....oh hell, I forgot, most of y'all are from Louisiana, y'all know damn well what to do....
Posted on 4/23/25 at 11:17 am to Jimbeaux
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Are you thinking that fish kills dont happen normally during flood situations? Or droughts?
Not refencing to eutrophication. Just pointing out the how a channeled flow into the Mississippi Sound is more impactful to the Mississippi Sound than it would be if the flood water was spread out though the entire coastal delta like it naturally occurred before levees.
Posted on 4/23/25 at 11:33 am to Riverside
quote:Not for nothing, but it's kind of like building a metropolis in the desert and running out of water: you build a civilization in one of the biggest flood zones on the planet, don't be surprised when it floods.
They would gladly flood all of South Louisiana in exchange for a better oyster crop.
Posted on 4/23/25 at 11:37 am to GumboPot
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Not refencing to eutrophication. Just pointing out the how a channeled flow into the Mississippi Sound is more impactful to the Mississippi Sound than it would be if the flood water was spread out though the entire coastal delta like it naturally occurred before levees.
Fair enough. But can we agree to at least put the qualifier, “sometimes”, in your sentence:
“Just pointing out the how a channeled flow into the Mississippi Sound is sometimes more impactful to the Mississippi Sound than it would be if the flood water was spread out though the entire coastal delta…”
In other words, sudden changes in conditions can and do occur in nature quite frequently which have adverse effects on localized species, including fish kills.
Now, I’ll also agree that a man-made cause which concentrates that sudden change in one area will Increase the adverse effects in that area compared to natural causes.
They question is this: is the increase worth it? That’s a more subtle question for which honest people can disagree.
But let’s not pretend that every man-induced fish kill is unwarranted or beyond what often occurs naturally.
Posted on 4/23/25 at 11:38 am to Tarps99
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Also more water could be pumped into Bayou Lafourche and other distributaries although the river.
You’ve really pissed off the oyster fishermen with that suggestion.
Posted on 4/23/25 at 11:55 am to Y.A. Tittle
Actually the lake is really more fresh than most people think. The salinity at Seabrook is 1.8 ppt, and less then 2 ppt is considered fresh. Average ocean salinity is 35 ppt.
Posted on 4/23/25 at 12:06 pm to Riverside
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These people are utterly insane. They would gladly flood all of South Louisiana in exchange for a better oyster crop.
Yes, we would rather let nature take its course and flood natural floodlands.
Posted on 4/23/25 at 12:06 pm to turnpiketiger
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Sorry Coastal Mississippi, you live next to the Mississippi River basin therefore it comes with the territory. You want dolphins, go live in Florida
What a shite take. And I want the spillways opened.
Posted on 4/23/25 at 12:15 pm to The Boat
It’s not just about flooding it impacts navigation too. The bottom line is they’ll follow the written guidance exactly because someone will always be pushing for them to exercise discretion and that’s what opens them up to lawsuits.
Posted on 4/23/25 at 12:37 pm to wadewilson
This happened in 1927 and it was nearly a humanitarian crisis. The spillway was created to prevent that from happening. How quickly we forget the lessons of the past in less than 100 years.
Posted on 4/23/25 at 1:01 pm to Jimbeaux
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They question is this: is the increase worth it?
This is the COE's job. To answer this question and communicate to the public the answer.
"Sometimes" (lol), given the existing river control structures the amount of fresh water diverted through the Pontchartrain basin is worth killing a few hundred dolphin in the Mississippi Sound.
NOLA levee integrity >>>>> Mississippi Sound dolphin lives.
But at least take the impact of the freshwater diversion into account and not haphazardly just open the Bonnet Carre Spillway just because you can.
Without verifying, I believe the COE is managing and making very informed decisions of when and when not to open the spillway. It's one area of government I pretty much trust because they seemingly have a good track record.
Posted on 4/23/25 at 1:02 pm to ragincajun03
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“We are very concerned. The largest number of dolphins that died during my history of 40 years was during the Bonnet Carre opening [in 2019]. It was more than the BP oil spill,” IMMS Executive Director Moby Solangi said.
The USACE should not give a damn about local impacts. Opening the spillway is only carrying out what mother nature has intended from the beginning of time until they built the levees in the early 1900's.
Mother nature never intended for dolphins, oysters or other creatures that can't survive in a brackish water environment to live there.
The levees are the main reason why we have a disappearing coastline until they go away we will continue to have nothing but lip service about saving the coast line.
Posted on 4/23/25 at 1:05 pm to GumboPot
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NOLA levee integrity >>>>> Mississippi Sound dolphin lives.
are the dolphins in a cage? Can they not swim towards water of higher salinity? Perhaps the loss of dolphin life is exactly as nature intends? This fricking loon trying to equate dolphins lives to anything human is absurdity to infinity.
Posted on 4/23/25 at 1:10 pm to slidingstop
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Can they not swim towards water of higher salinity?
Yes.
But do they know to direction to swim to higher salinity? Probably not.
And do they know that long freshwater exposure can cause skin lesions that can get infected which eventually lead to death? Probably not.
Posted on 4/23/25 at 1:21 pm to notiger1997
quote:Agreed.
This is a small opening that may or may not happen and it won’t last very long.
These folks are sky screaming for attention.
It's amazing how some people can get upset over something happening temporarily that used to occur every year for thousands of years before the man-made levee system was built.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 8:12 am to MrBobDobalina
quote:Stop making sense.
Leave Morganza open, blow up the levees south of New Orleans in Plaquimines parish, never worry about Baton Rouge or NOLA flooding again.
(The red is marsh lost from 1920)
Posted on 4/24/25 at 9:08 am to Riverside
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This happened in 1927 and it was nearly a humanitarian crisis. The spillway was created to prevent that from happening. How quickly we forget the lessons of the past in less than 100 years.
How about don't build in a fricking flood plain, retard?
Posted on 4/24/25 at 9:20 am to ragincajun03
What's the porpoise of this article?
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