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Posted on 3/24/20 at 12:56 pm to MF Doom
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Unless your plan was to impose martial law in February you would have failed to stop the outbreak as well.
Nobody has ever said it could be fully stopped but we damn sure could have done a lot of things to mitigate it's spread.
Our government knew about this shite as early as late December and did frick all to prepare.
Keep your head in the sand since it makes you feel better.
This post was edited on 3/24/20 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 3/24/20 at 1:00 pm to OKtiger
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You could slowly watch 7-10 million people die because of overall hospital resource shortage AND have the economy suck for many months
Social distancing hasn't gone on long enough for this to even be a possible number. The numbers would already be out of control seeing that the majority of the population hasn't been doing any distancing at all.
Just look at the parks, the beaches, people still working, the grocery stores have more people than any other place. People still had weddings, throwing parties at their houses. Church services still ongoing.
Posted on 3/24/20 at 1:01 pm to Chad504boy
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my grandparents aren't snow flake melting bitches.
Well where the hell did you get it from?
Posted on 3/24/20 at 1:05 pm to Dr RC
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Not as highly as the guy who flat out ignores his own infectious disease expert b/c his big brain power gives him hunches about things he barely comprehends.
Aww. Did I hurt your feelings? What the hell am I ignoring? The fact that I think that medical experts can be off on their predictions? Do you think they're infallible?
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South Korea is #1 by a long shot. Australia and Singapore have also done far better than we have. This stuff isn't hard to look up.
Well, South Korea and Singapore have some population attributes that somewhat helped their respective responses, and we will never have those attributes here.
By the way, have you calculated their per capita death rates and run a comparison to ours? Now, I know they're several days ahead of us, but I think you may find the numbers somewhat surprising.
Posted on 3/24/20 at 1:05 pm to Dr RC
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Nobody has ever said it could be fully stopped but we damn sure could have done a lot of things to mitigate it's spread.
Like what? Seriously you can't just say vague shite like this. A lot of People still aren't listening to the governments orders.
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Keep your head in the sand since it makes you feel better.
You would've found a way to blame this on trump regardless
Posted on 3/24/20 at 1:06 pm to Dr RC
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Nobody has ever said it could be fully stopped but we damn sure could have done a lot of things to mitigate it's spread.
Our government knew about this shite as early as late December and did frick all to prepare.
Keep your head in the sand since it makes you feel better.
your hubris has convinced you that your agenda isn't obvious, but it is. You're a shill and are letting your personal political beliefs marginalize whatever worth you may contribute.
Posted on 3/24/20 at 1:09 pm to Pettifogger
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My personal belief is that Obama probably would have handled this better from a pure management perspective. I
What about his handling of anything during his eight year tenure convinces you of this? Do you really think he would have cut off travel with China? Hell, he would probably be offering to take refugees from Iran. Or is it just that because the media "would be on his side" that it would be better?
Posted on 3/24/20 at 1:12 pm to SloaneRanger
The smartest thing DJT has done is put so much power/decision making on the states. What's good for one isn't good, or necessary, for another.
Posted on 3/24/20 at 1:12 pm to SloaneRanger
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What about his handling of anything during his eight year tenure convinces you of this?
His entire term. He wasn't infallible, but he put trust in his advisers, respected and listened to their input, and gave his cabinets the tools they needed to succeed. His administration was also almost always on the same page with their messaging. Same could be said for every prior administration.
Posted on 3/24/20 at 1:14 pm to The Spleen
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His entire term. He wasn't infallible, but he put trust in his advisers, respected and listened to their input, and gave his cabinets the tools they needed to succeed. His administration was also almost always on the same page with their messaging. Same could be said for every prior administration.
I don't even know where to start...
Posted on 3/24/20 at 1:15 pm to SloaneRanger
I like how people now shite on Obama's H1N1 response when that's exactly what the people shitting on him want to happen IE basically no change to the status quo of life.
Posted on 3/24/20 at 1:15 pm to SloaneRanger
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I don't even know where to start.
I know.
Posted on 3/24/20 at 1:16 pm to YumYum Sauce
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The smartest thing DJT has done is put so much power/decision making on the states. What's good for one isn't good, or necessary, for another.
I'd rank that as 1b. 1a would be that he listened to scientists.
Posted on 3/24/20 at 1:17 pm to Unknown_Poster
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I'd rank that as 1b. 1a would be that he listened to scientists.
I think trump has done a decent job so far. Messaging has been a little mixed lately. I hope we strike the correct balance when getting back to normal life.
Posted on 3/24/20 at 1:20 pm to SloaneRanger
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What about his handling of anything during his eight year tenure convinces you of this? Do you really think he would have cut off travel with China? Hell, he would probably be offering to take refugees from Iran. Or is it just that because the media "would be on his side" that it would be better?
He's a consistent messenger who delegates to subordinates and doesn't send conflicting messages. He's probably a narcissist, but not nearly as vanity obsessed as Trump. I think Trump's #1 goal is to bring glory to Trump in all things.
I can't envision a scenario in which Trump would ever sacrifice his reelection for the country, or admit fault, or admit ignorance. I can only envision Obama doing so in the narrowest of circumstances, but it's still more likely.
Anyway, I support Trump because I think he carries the banner for some ideas I care about, and because he sometimes picks entertaining fights. I don't think he's a particularly good leader or person. I think Obama is a somewhat better person and leader, but I also think he supports a worldview committed to the things I'm against. Hence, in a mostly non-ideological crisis, I'd probably pick Obama.
Posted on 3/24/20 at 1:37 pm to Mo Jeaux
Yes my feels are hurt. I'm literally shaking.
Posted on 3/24/20 at 1:38 pm to tigerinthebueche
K 
Posted on 3/24/20 at 1:44 pm to Unknown_Poster
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The smartest thing DJT has done is put so much power/decision making on the states. What's good for one isn't good, or necessary, for another.
I'd rank that as 1b. 1a would be that he listened to scientists.
I think you have to include partnering with private businesses to meet immediate needs up there. To go from no testing to more testing in 8 days than Korea has done in 8 weeks is phenomenal. And now we will see how those partnerships provide treatment medication (Thanks, Bayer), masks, etc.
Posted on 3/24/20 at 1:47 pm to OKtiger
That's all well and good. So whats to stop all of this from firing up again after social dxing is done and we attempt to return to normal?
This post was edited on 3/24/20 at 1:52 pm
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