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re: Social Distancing is Working
Posted on 3/24/20 at 12:23 pm to Oilfieldbiology
Posted on 3/24/20 at 12:23 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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No it’s basic fear porn. If the disease can’t kill 50,000 in fricking CHINA, it won’t approach that here
Do you know why it didn’t go past 50,000? They locked the citizens in their houses for two months. Thank you for proving my point on why we shouldn’t go back to normal life right now
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Posted on 3/24/20 at 12:24 pm to OKtiger
So are you an economist or a doctor? Or just an expert in everything?
Posted on 3/24/20 at 12:24 pm to JohnnyKilroy
Ok so multiply that number by 10x. That’s still less than 1 million which is 5-7 times less than what the fear loving OP claimed.
Posted on 3/24/20 at 12:26 pm to OKtiger
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They locked the citizens in their houses for two months.
They destroyed roads and bolted people in their homes
You wanna do that here?
Posted on 3/24/20 at 12:27 pm to Dr RC
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But at least you understand this part. Ignore the death cult members who are going to savage you as they demand the death panels they claimed we would get with single payer health care.
It’s sad to see these “Pro-Lifers” change their tune so quickly. They never really cared about death panels in the first place
Posted on 3/24/20 at 12:27 pm to bkPoseidon
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So if you had to choose between your grandparents or the stock market, you’d choose the stock market?
Tell Granny TO STAY HOME..bring her groceries and talk on FT.
At risk....STAY HOME.
Posted on 3/24/20 at 12:29 pm to OKtiger
Yeah AFTER they had horrendous outbreaks and what seemed like everyone in Wuhan was infected. Still didn’t kill anywhere nearly as many as you predict it would
Posted on 3/24/20 at 12:29 pm to MF Doom
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They destroyed roads and bolted people in their homes
You wanna do that here?
Lol no. I’d like to find a happy medium. Just making a point to say that China’s death toll wasn’t the product of everyone going about their lives normally like Trump is proposing
Posted on 3/24/20 at 12:30 pm to Oilfieldbiology
What point was the one where we decided China was now 100% truthful? Or is it constantly changing based on the argument we're trying to win?
This post was edited on 3/24/20 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 3/24/20 at 12:31 pm to OKtiger
quote:its not an either-or
You just value economics more than human life
when people can't feed their kids in 4-5 months because they lost their job home, do human lives matter then?
people are going to suffer, die we get that, it sucks.
But the virus is most likely to kill the old and infirmed
people that would most likely die in the next 4 year anyway
the WORLDS economy will suffer, this isn't like a regional downturn where a percentage will move to a healthier region.
Here in the US it will hurt, it will hurt a lot
but we are unlikely to see mass starvation, in those 3 world countries where foreign aid is greatly diminished people will die of starvation. not tomorrow, not next week
but 2021... it will start
do those humans lives matter ?
Posted on 3/24/20 at 12:31 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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Still didn’t kill anywhere nearly as many as you predict it would
That’s because they bolted people inside their homes to prevent further spread. Thank you for making my point.. again
Posted on 3/24/20 at 12:34 pm to OKtiger
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It’s basic math... and the number was probably a lower estimate. The fact is a lot more people will die because of hospital resource/staff shortage from other health causes compared to COVID cases that would be flooding the system. That WILL happen if you go back right now. It’s not a fricking hoax
You say 7-10 million. I say 700-1000, can use basic math to back it up, and my scenario would be equally as plausible as yours.
You should just say “I’m here to fear monger” in every post and at least be open about it.
Posted on 3/24/20 at 12:35 pm to OKtiger
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So please spare me with the hysterics.
Have you seen your own posts in this thread?
Posted on 3/24/20 at 12:35 pm to Open Your Eyes
Pretty sure he’s a chinese paid blogger trying not to let America believe the business of America is business.
Posted on 3/24/20 at 12:36 pm to OKtiger
The only thing for certain about the Chinese numbers is that they are lies.
Posted on 3/24/20 at 12:37 pm to Desert King
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BS. The argument was that thinking about your own financial situation over the health of old people is wrong. That argument is asinine because very few people would devastate themselves economically to save the life of a random stranger. Deny it if you want, but it’s reality.
No, you missed the point. The old people aren't random strangers. They are my father, aunt, mother-in-law, etc.
If you all don't care about the older people in your life, thats fine, but don't act like one side of the argument is ridiculous.
Posted on 3/24/20 at 12:37 pm to Pettifogger
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You have to pretty much take the math to the fullest extent to get to a million deaths, much less several million.
The US population is roughly 330 million.
34% of our population is over 50.
Just under 40% of all adults over the age of 20 are obese.
45% of our population has at least one chronic illness.
There are 30 million Americans with diabetes and another 70 million with pre-diabetes.
38 million Americans smoke cigarettes and over 10.5 million vape.
We are not a healthy country. Let this shite run wild and it will get really bad.
Posted on 3/24/20 at 12:37 pm to SloaneRanger
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He has been far from perfect. There has been good and bad. But can you imagine this happening on the watch of his feckless, lazy, incompetent predecessor? We'd really be in a world of hurt. Hell, we'd still be letting the Chinese pour in. So it could be worse.
Could be
My personal belief is that Obama probably would have handled this better from a pure management perspective. I think he's a more capable leader for a situation like this, where he'd have the media on his side and a GOP congress that would no doubt challenge him, but probably wouldn't be outright opposed to his efforts like Democrats are. So in fairness to Trump, not all of my opinion is based purely on Trump vs. Obama, some of it has to do with the adoration of Obama by influencers (media, etc.) and their unfair reactions to Trump.
That doesn't mean I want Obama back, btw.
Posted on 3/24/20 at 12:37 pm to Bullfrog
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Pretty sure he’s a chinese paid blogger trying not to let America believe the business of America is business.
Posted on 3/24/20 at 12:37 pm to TH03
Never said they were and only using published numbers. Make it 10 times worse and it never got to 1/7 as bad as op claims it would have gotten here
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