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re: Show Pride in Your Ancestry
Posted on 6/12/20 at 3:18 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
Posted on 6/12/20 at 3:18 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
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My great great great grandfather fought because Louisiana chose to secede and he fought against an oppressive government who was in violation of the Constitution.
PS: Prevarication would seem to be one of your family’s traditions.
Posted on 6/12/20 at 5:10 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
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Mass murderers vs Southern gentleman
The Nazis took notes from the United States, particularly the Jim Crow South. Hitler was a big fan of eugenics in America.
This was in Mein Kampf
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"There is today one state," wrote Hitler, "in which at least weak beginnings toward a better conception (of immigration) are noticeable. Of course, it is not our model German Republic, but the United States."
Hitler proudly told his comrades just how closely he followed the progress of the American eugenics movement. "I have studied with great interest," he told a fellow Nazi, "the laws of several American states concerning prevention of reproduction by people whose progeny would, in all probability, be of no value or be injurious to the racial stock."
Hitler even wrote a fan letter to American eugenics leader Madison Grant, calling his race-based eugenics book, "The Passing of the Great Race," his "bible."
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Jim Crow segregation blanketed the South. Thirty of the forty-eight states possessed anti-miscegenation legislation that prohibited interracial marriage — not only between whites and blacks, but also between whites and Asians — and sometimes threatened violators with harsh criminal punishment. In Maryland, they faced up to ten years in prison. Law made second-class citizens of blacks, Filipinos, Puerto Ricans, Asians and Native Americans. Most especially, it deprived these non-white Americans of any meaningful right to vote.
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 5:43 am to OMLandshark
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Do you honor said ancestors though?
If you’re Greek, Italian, or Arab you most certainly do.
Posted on 6/12/20 at 5:48 am to Northshore Saint
Did his fondness of eugenics extend to the American queen of eugenics Margaret Sanger?
Posted on 6/12/20 at 6:17 am to Northshore Saint
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The Nazis took notes from the United States, particularly the Jim Crow South. Hitler was a big fan of eugenics in America.
This was in Mein Kampf
Madison Grant and Margaret Sanger were New Yorkers (not Southerners, if you need help figuring that out).
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Thirty of the forty-eight states possessed anti-miscegenation legislation
I'm not a math wizard, but I'm pretty sure that's more than double the number of ex-Confederate states.
This post was edited on 6/12/20 at 6:19 am
Posted on 6/12/20 at 7:04 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
This is a far back as I've gotten: A ship building family with a love of animals.


Posted on 6/12/20 at 7:48 am to Lima Whiskey
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No they did not.
Read period letters.
They fought for political independence from the North. That’s what motivated them. And it was true of officers and common soldiers alike.
This seems to be a common take from Southerners who have never actually read any of the documents, or at least skip over the parts they don’t like.
Why do you think they wanted political independence??? The states made that VERY clear in their reasons for seceding
Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:12 am to parrothead
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What did they do? Join the group who laid this out in their cornerstone speech, re
Yep.
In his defense though, New Orleans attempted to stop that and even considered pulling a West Virginia.
Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:13 am to pvilleguru
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my ancestors owned slaves.
Yeah mine too
In Baton Rouge about 5 miles from LSU nonetheless.
I just back up slowly and leave the room when this topic of pride in our Confederate ancestry comes up
Posted on 6/12/20 at 10:51 am to X123F45
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Know what we learned to do?
Coexist.
I mean...except for the whole Slave Revolt.
Posted on 6/12/20 at 11:19 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
Mine (during the Civil War era) were hiding out in the desert, marrying multiple preteens, thinking of fun things to ban, and waiting for jello salad to be invented. I try to focus forward.
Posted on 6/12/20 at 11:35 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
Half of my ancestors came from Greece in 1920 and the other half were Cherokees who were marched across the US under horrible circumstances and most died. So there. No slave history whatsoever.
Posted on 6/12/20 at 11:36 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
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Show Pride in Your Ancestry

Posted on 6/12/20 at 11:55 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
I don’t need a 3 foot statue of a dude I’m not related to to show pride in my ancestry. I’ll take solace in knowing that my great great grandfather stowed away with nothing from Hamburg to get to America and settled in the Midwest and started a long lineage of successful descendants with his German bride.
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