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Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 3:18 am to
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My great great great grandfather fought because Louisiana chose to secede and he fought against an oppressive government who was in violation of the Constitution.


PS: Prevarication would seem to be one of your family’s traditions.
Posted by Northshore Saint
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Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 5:10 am to
quote:


Mass murderers vs Southern gentleman


The Nazis took notes from the United States, particularly the Jim Crow South. Hitler was a big fan of eugenics in America.

This was in Mein Kampf

quote:

"There is today one state," wrote Hitler, "in which at least weak beginnings toward a better conception (of immigration) are noticeable. Of course, it is not our model German Republic, but the United States."

Hitler proudly told his comrades just how closely he followed the progress of the American eugenics movement. "I have studied with great interest," he told a fellow Nazi, "the laws of several American states concerning prevention of reproduction by people whose progeny would, in all probability, be of no value or be injurious to the racial stock."

Hitler even wrote a fan letter to American eugenics leader Madison Grant, calling his race-based eugenics book, "The Passing of the Great Race," his "bible."



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Jim Crow segregation blanketed the South. Thirty of the forty-eight states possessed anti-miscegenation legislation that prohibited interracial marriage — not only between whites and blacks, but also between whites and Asians — and sometimes threatened violators with harsh criminal punishment. In Maryland, they faced up to ten years in prison. Law made second-class citizens of blacks, Filipinos, Puerto Ricans, Asians and Native Americans. Most especially, it deprived these non-white Americans of any meaningful right to vote.


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Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 5:26 am to
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 5:43 am to
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Do you honor said ancestors though?


If you’re Greek, Italian, or Arab you most certainly do.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 5:48 am to
Did his fondness of eugenics extend to the American queen of eugenics Margaret Sanger?
Posted by PowerTool
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 6:17 am to
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The Nazis took notes from the United States, particularly the Jim Crow South. Hitler was a big fan of eugenics in America.

This was in Mein Kampf




Madison Grant and Margaret Sanger were New Yorkers (not Southerners, if you need help figuring that out).

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Thirty of the forty-eight states possessed anti-miscegenation legislation


I'm not a math wizard, but I'm pretty sure that's more than double the number of ex-Confederate states.
This post was edited on 6/12/20 at 6:19 am
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 6:52 am to
Posted by BestBanker
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 7:04 am to
This is a far back as I've gotten: A ship building family with a love of animals.

Posted by chryso
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 7:18 am to
Posted by LSU Coyote
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 7:27 am to
Posted by arkyhawk
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Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 7:48 am to
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No they did not.

Read period letters.

They fought for political independence from the North. That’s what motivated them. And it was true of officers and common soldiers alike.


This seems to be a common take from Southerners who have never actually read any of the documents, or at least skip over the parts they don’t like.

Why do you think they wanted political independence??? The states made that VERY clear in their reasons for seceding
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:12 am to
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What did they do? Join the group who laid this out in their cornerstone speech, re



Yep.


In his defense though, New Orleans attempted to stop that and even considered pulling a West Virginia.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:13 am to
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my ancestors owned slaves.


Yeah mine too

In Baton Rouge about 5 miles from LSU nonetheless.

I just back up slowly and leave the room when this topic of pride in our Confederate ancestry comes up

Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 10:51 am to
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Know what we learned to do?

Coexist.



I mean...except for the whole Slave Revolt.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 11:19 am to
Mine (during the Civil War era) were hiding out in the desert, marrying multiple preteens, thinking of fun things to ban, and waiting for jello salad to be invented. I try to focus forward.
Posted by cypresstiger
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 11:28 am to
Posted by MBclass83
Member since Oct 2010
10249 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 11:35 am to
Half of my ancestors came from Greece in 1920 and the other half were Cherokees who were marched across the US under horrible circumstances and most died. So there. No slave history whatsoever.
Posted by BrohemAlem11
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Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 11:36 am to
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Show Pride in Your Ancestry


Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 11:40 am to
Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 11:55 am to
I don’t need a 3 foot statue of a dude I’m not related to to show pride in my ancestry. I’ll take solace in knowing that my great great grandfather stowed away with nothing from Hamburg to get to America and settled in the Midwest and started a long lineage of successful descendants with his German bride.
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