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re: schlitterbahn’s tragic slide

Posted on 7/22/18 at 6:05 pm to
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31596 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 6:05 pm to
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Waiting for Caleb at the bottom of Verrückt was one of his brothers, along with numerous spectators. As the boy’s small corpse slid toward the runout pool, everyone began to scream. Onlookers prevented Caleb’s mother from witnessing the scene. “It was as horrible a moment as you could imagine,” a person who was there told me. “A nightmare beyond comprehension. I can’t begin to describe it.”



Holy shite
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
36635 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 6:05 pm to
quote:

Authorities later said the boy, who weighed 74 pounds (34 kg), should have been in the center of the raft between the other two female passengers – one weighing 275 pounds (125 kg) and another weighing 197 pounds (89 kg).




Those are big women
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
28311 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 6:06 pm to
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the other two female passengers – one weighing 275 pounds (125 kg) and another weighing 197 pounds (89 kg).


pretty much sums up my experiences with waterparks the past decade or so
This post was edited on 7/22/18 at 6:06 pm
Posted by VernonPLSUfan
Leesville, La.
Member since Sep 2007
17965 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 6:08 pm to
Should of gone to Disney World and let the kid swim in the lagoon.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 6:10 pm to
quote:

They are doubled strapped over the shoulders in the raft so I don’t get how the kid flew out

The kid didn't fly out. The entire boat went too fast and went airborne at the top of the 5 story hill at the bottom and the passengers hit the netting. One of the support rings took the kid's head off. I think it was only after the fatal impact that the remaining 90% of his body left the boat. Couple of things here:

1) The support for the net should NEVER be inside with the net draped over it. The support should ALWAYS be on the outside of the net with the net hanging from it and secured in such a manner so that nobody can contact either the net or supports. Netting is not a rider safety feature, it's to prevent ejected objects from flying into crowds. This was one of many gross design errors. ASTM has a design guide for amusement rides. They ignored virtually every part of it in the design of this ride. For instance, riders were held in with straps using "hook and loop closures". These are forbidden by the ASTM guidance, which suggests solid over the shoulder bars and lap bars.

By the way, this is an example of "hook and loop" closure.





2) The particular boat involved was notorious for going too fast. It was known and documented to have been involved in overspeed incidents and injuries before at a rate higher than the other boats. A problem with the boat was known and ignored.
This post was edited on 7/22/18 at 6:33 pm
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
178333 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 6:13 pm to
Did his head come completely off or was it an internal decapitation?
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 6:15 pm to
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Did his head come completely off or was it an internal decapitation?

Completely off.
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
28311 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 6:18 pm to
quote:

1) The support for the net should NEVER be inside with the net draped over it. The support should ALWAYS be on the outside of the net with the net hanging from it and secured in such a manner so that if anyone flies into the net, it restrains them without the possibility they'll contact support structures. This was one of many gross design errors.


this was the most shocking part to me as well.why wouldnt the net just be held by 2 ropes attached to poles that dont go directly over the track, especially in the one spot that boats could be launched from into the air
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122527 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 6:21 pm to
I haven't read the entire thread yet and I didn't read the complete article, but I did read that the kid was a 10 year old who was 4'11" 72Ibs. I looked up the average weight and height for children by age.

For a 10 year old, the average weight is 70.5lbs and the average height is 4'6" so he seemed to be a little bit taller than average..

Did his weight..or lack of... a factor?
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 6:25 pm to
quote:

this was the most shocking part to me as well.why wouldnt the net just be held by 2 ropes attached to poles that dont go directly over the track, especially in the one spot that boats could be launched from into the air


That's what design by Bubba gets you. It's been a while since I read the indictment and technical documentation, but I'm not even sure that the netting is allowed to make contact with riders. I think that netting is only allowed to be used to keep objects that fly out from getting into the crowd. I think that ride design is supposed to ensure that riders never contact anything.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
60134 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 6:32 pm to
how could a woman weigh 275 pounds?
Posted by ClientNumber9
Member since Feb 2009
10204 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 6:36 pm to
quote:

how could a woman weigh 275 pounds?


Ever been to virtually any city in the United States?
Posted by Shotgun Willie
Member since Apr 2016
4310 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 6:41 pm to
I live in KC and have seen the slide, no way I would have gotten on it.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74884 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 6:50 pm to
Sucks it closed
Kid was too small and loaded wrong.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
291652 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 7:09 pm to
do you work at waterparks?
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 7:14 pm to
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do you work at waterparks?

Someday, if I'm lucky.

Until then, I'll just keep following this case and learning everything I can about it because I'm utterly dumbfounded how fast and loose Schlitterbahn and its ownership and management played with people's lives here. This is going to end up being one of those case studies that people are taught in college, right along with the Challenger disaster, the Kansas City Hyatt Walkway collapse, the Tacoma Narrows Bridge, etc.
This post was edited on 7/22/18 at 7:20 pm
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
26325 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 7:19 pm to
quote:

Did his weight..or lack of... a factor?


Only because the ride attendant loaded the passengers wrong. 2 fat women and a 70 lb kid. They put the kid in front, so all the weight was in the rear of raft which led to front end lifting up and draft getting under the raft causing it to get airborne into the fencing overhead. Had the attendant loaded the ride correctly (kid in middle for even weight distribution) then the kid would be alive and the ride would still be open
Posted by TigeRoots
Member since Oct 2008
8556 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 8:20 pm to
Good article and good points in this thread. I was unaware of this happening. Gross negligence on many fronts.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
76153 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 8:29 pm to
Wow!

I was in Kansas City this weekend.

That could have been me!
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
48176 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 8:36 pm to
quote:

Had the attendant loaded the ride correctly (kid in middle for even weight distribution) then the kid would be alive and the ride would still be open


maybe not between those two heifers
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