re: Savannah Guthrie’s mom missing - being held for ransom - suspect photos released

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I've provided neither "a screwy theory" 

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I wonder what youre implying with this?

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 The firm's goals were to provide "lobbying, public relations, advertising, marketing, government relations and policy counsel, crisis management and opinion research."
This firm was named directly in the Epstein files.

Not to mention, Savannah interviewed many Epstein survivors to include Virginia Giuffre, whose father worked at Mar-a-Lago. When Guiffre's case was unsealed, Jeffrey Epstein "committed suicide" the very next day. In April of 2025, Virginie Giuffre herself "committed suicide" and was coincidentally writing her memoir detailing her abuse. It was published posthumously this past October

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And below, you are admitting to what I've said about you...

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Just a little far fetched to think this could be related to Epstein or the Clintons.



I agree, but I love a good mystery/conspiracy.

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What have YOU provided to this thread other than saying everyone else is wrong?

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Pointing out your sensationalism and boredom that requires an Epstein conspiracy. I've commented on nobody else.

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I personally think there are too many coincidences between this family and the Epstein case and the Clintons for this to be random.

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Political operatives, CIA, MI6, Mossad… all could have had something to do with this. If they thought Savannah was at risk of divulging embarrassing details, then doing something like this is not out of the question for any of them. People get desperate when they fear exposure. I don’t think it’s too crazy to think this could be linked to Epstein, Clinton, or Prince Andrew. Everybody knows the Clintons are not above murder for political gain.

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What are the odds this 84-year old memaw disappears 24-hours after the Epstein files drop, and who's daughter and son-in-law have a direct connection to the Epstein case by way of working damage control-PR for Bill and Hillary Clinton, interviewing the now deceased seminal Epstein victim, and was famously tasked with pressing Donald Trump to deny the existence of a pedo cult?

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Don't know. What are the odds that some of these sophisticated super powerful people decided on a plan that is sussed out by a people on the internet in a day or 3?

So once "they" quiet Guthrie nobody else will report on it or have their mee-maw kidnapped too?

Although deadline has passed we still haven't had a firm answer who dropped her off that night. Why? They've tried to redirect the original statement it was Tomasso. Why?
Why has the Tomasso talk become non existent?
We were told right off the bat it was a a crime scene but still nothing about what was discovered in the home. Why?
The ransom thing has been a deliberate ploy to mislead.
She's dead.
Someone was in that house taking care of business for 4 hours. Sedating her perhaps and doing whatever unimaginable thing to the body. When it was time to go they went out, destroyed the doorbell camera, and left with an accidental bit of blood behind.
Objective was for Annie and Tomasso to get inheritance soon.

Another change to the details of the story although minor...

She wasn't supposed to go to church as has been reported, she was going to a friends house to watch a livestream of a church service.

Yes minor, but similar to the who dropped her off vagueness, it seems like the local Sheriff fricked up and convoluted everything from the start.

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Without proof of death aka "a body" probating her estate would be a lengthy process

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I'd be shocked if someone like that didn't have a will and trust set up to avoid any sort of probate.

About 32.33 repeating of course percentage.

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They would never bury her body.
They gain nothing unless she is declared dead and her estate can be probated.
Without proof of death aka "a body" probating her estate would be a lengthy process

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If it's the son in law and daughter, I doubt they have considered the probate process without a body. They don't seem like they would have thought that far ahead

Fox News is reporting that the Feds have a surveillance image of the suspected bad guy that they will be releasing to the public soon.

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what are the facts of this case...ie, the timing when she got dropped off, when phone stopped pinging pacemaker, etc...

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Gemini roundup for you:

The Disappearance
Nancy, 84, was last seen on the night of Saturday, January 31. Her son-in-law, Tommaso Cioni, dropped her off at her Tucson home around 9:48 p.m. after a family dinner. The alarm was raised the next morning when she didn't show up for a church service.

Leads and Evidence
While authorities haven't named a formal suspect or person of interest, they've confirmed several disturbing details that shifted this from a "missing person" case to a criminal investigation:

The Scene: Investigators found blood spatters on her front porch, which DNA testing confirmed belonged to Nancy.

The Tech: Her doorbell camera was manually disconnected around 1:47 a.m. that Sunday, and the camera itself was later found to be missing. Even more concerning, her pacemaker disconnected from its monitoring app at 2:28 a.m.

The "Inside Job" Theory: Because the kidnappers seemingly knew where the cameras were and how to disable them, some theories suggest the perpetrator had intimate knowledge of the home layout.

The Ransom Note
Several media outlets (including TMZ and KOLD-TV) received messages demanding $6 million in Bitcoin.

Credibility: The FBI is taking them seriously because they mentioned specific details not known to the public, like a particular floodlight and an Apple Watch at the scene.

The Deadline: There was a major deadline set for Monday, February 9, at 5 p.m.. That deadline has now passed. Savannah Guthrie and her siblings even posted a video over the weekend saying, "We received your message... we will pay," but there’s been no public confirmation of a "proof of life" or a successful exchange.

Current Status
The FBI has joined the Pima County Sheriff’s Department and is offering a $50,000 reward. They’ve also warned about "imposter" ransom notes; in fact, one man has already been arrested for sending a fraudulent demand to the family.

The biggest worry right now is her health. She relies on specific daily medication and a pacemaker, and with ten days having passed, the urgency is at an all-time high.