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re: Savannah Guthrie’s mom missing - being held for ransom - suspect photos released

Posted on 2/9/26 at 4:27 pm to
Posted by Harry Caray
Denial
Member since Aug 2009
21045 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 4:27 pm to
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You people.
You really think it's that far-fetched for someone platforming a story targeting the most rich and powerful men in the world to be retaliated against like this?
Posted by HouseMom
Member since Jun 2020
1933 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 4:32 pm to
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What did she know about the Clintons?


Savannah Guthrie's husband, Michael Feldman, worked in the Clinton administration under various roles. He was deputy director of legislative affairs from 1993 to 1997, and in 1997, Feldman became senior adviser and traveling chief of staff to the Vice President, a role he held until 2001.

He then founded a PR firm called The Glover Park group with former White House Press Secretary Joe Lockhart (under Clinton). The firm's goals were to provide "lobbying, public relations, advertising, marketing, government relations and policy counsel, crisis management and opinion research."
This firm was named directly in the Epstein files.

Not to mention, Savannah interviewed many Epstein survivors to include Virginia Giuffre, whose father worked at Mar-a-Lago. When Guiffre's case was unsealed, Jeffrey Epstein "committed suicide" the very next day. In April of 2025, Virginie Giuffre herself "committed suicide" and was coincidentally writing her memoir detailing her abuse. It was published posthumously this past October.
Posted by GeauxTigers123
Member since Feb 2007
3662 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 4:35 pm to
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What do believe happened to Nancy?


I think she is dead. Now IDK if they meant to kill her or not. I also think the person who took her away is likely from Arizona.

I do not think the family is involved. I think that would’ve unraveled already.
Posted by HouseMom
Member since Jun 2020
1933 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 4:47 pm to
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You people.


It is a huge connection, and the Epstein case is one of the biggest stories of our lifetime. Seems rather odd to just dismiss it.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79893 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 4:51 pm to
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You really think it's that far-fetched for someone platforming a story targeting the most rich and powerful men in the world to be retaliated against like this?
Yes. I think some of you crave intrigue and will grasp at all sorts of straws.
Posted by Disco Ball
Denham Springs
Member since May 2025
1382 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 4:53 pm to
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I think she is dead. Now IDK if they meant to kill her or not. I also think the person who took her away is likely from Arizona.


Thank you.
I agree that she is most likely no longer among the living.
But let's take a deep dive into historical Kidnapper/ Ransom scenarios.
They rarely ever end well for the kidnapper. You need a high value target related to a very wealthy family. A target with many years years left of their life that the family would want to and be able to afford to preserve.
Nancy is the last type of person you'd want to kidnap.
The logistics alone of caring for an 84 year old woman with numerous health issues, requiring multiple RX, limited mobility and a pacemaker are impossible for the average kidnapper.
She was murdered.
No kidnapper expecting a ransom would wait 3 days to send a ransom note especially when the target was in extremely frail health.
The fake ransom emails are a case of someone exploiting the chance of collecting their 1/3 of the inheritance and maybe some ransom dollars from NBC


This post was edited on 2/9/26 at 4:58 pm
Posted by ob1pimpbobi
College Station
Member since Jul 2022
3237 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 5:12 pm to
I think she is dead and I think the family knows who did it cause it’s someone in the family. This kidnapping thing is too weird and I think it’s a ploy to throw off the cops. This has all the feels of the Jon Bennet case.
Posted by HouseMom
Member since Jun 2020
1933 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 5:17 pm to
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Yes. I think some of you crave intrigue and will grasp at all sorts of straws.


Connecting obvious dots is not "craving intrigue" in a case. And who cares? Nobody has any answers even with non-stop news coverage. I'm not grasping at straws. I'm just listing out facts that are easily checked. This is the mother in law of a highly connected man who just happens to be partners with Bill Clinton's former press secretary in a PR firm that specializes in crisis management. They're "scrubbers" to be exact.

The same firm just mentioned in the Epstein files that dropped on January 30, and the last time anyone sees this woman is January 31? They report her missing on February 1st and then Prince Andrew was essentially exiled by his family "in the darkness of night" on February 2nd. Then, this is published on February 3rd:

Chairman Comer Announces the Clintons Caved, Will Appear for Depositions

WASHINGTON— House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform Chairman James Comer (R-Ky.) today announced that former President Bill Clinton and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton have agreed to appear for transcribed, filmed depositions to face questioning as part of the investigation related to Jeffery Epstein’s and Ghislaine Maxwell’s crimes. Former President Clinton will appear for a deposition on February 27, 2026 and former Secretary Clinton will appear for a deposition on February 26, 2026.


oversight.house.gov

The same Prince Andrew who was sued by Virginia Giuffre. Remember this is the lady interviewed by Savannah Guthrie and then later "committed suicide" only a few months before her tell-all memoir was published in October of '25. Prince Andrew's family kicked him to the curb that same month.

"In October, Mountbatten-Windsor was ordered to leave the sprawling 30-room Royal Lodge in the heart of the Crown’s Windsor Estate, just outside of London, after his brother King Charles III cast him out of the monarchy over the swirling Jeffrey Epstein scandal." - CNN

CNN link about Prince Andrew

None of this may be connected at all, but it seems pretty darned coincidental. Certainly more believable that this is to shut Savannah up more so than the brother in law killing her for money.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79893 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 5:58 pm to
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None of this may be connected at all
It's not.

quote:

but it seems pretty darned coincidental
Well, yeah. Do you know what "coincidental" means? It means that although 2 things happen at the same time, they are not related.

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Certainly more believable that this is to shut Savannah up more so than the brother in law killing her for money


Nobody else will report on this? Will grandmas go missing everywhere?
This post was edited on 2/9/26 at 6:00 pm
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
96824 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 6:22 pm to
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But during the process she dies due to lack of medicine in a few days.


I’m surprised the kidnappers are also nurses who managed to bandage a wound of an old lady and keeping her alive. That was a lot of her blood IIRC
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122093 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 6:38 pm to
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Just wondering if the whole family is behind it.


The more people involved the more risky it is. With knowing very little I will say there is a 99% chance her whole family isn't involved.
Posted by Sunnyvale
Little ST. James
Member since Feb 2024
3340 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 6:46 pm to
But Trump said, something is coming and very soon.

Very Soon.

VERY SOON.
Posted by HouseMom
Member since Jun 2020
1933 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 6:58 pm to
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It's not.


Well folks, I guess we have our kidnapper since you're so sure I'm wrong.

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Well, yeah. Do you know what "coincidental" means? It means that although 2 things happen at the same time, they are not related.


True, except when lots of "coincidences" happen at the same time.

I've already said I don't know if it's connected, but neither do you unless you did it. Several on here commented that they'd never heard of Savannah Guthrie, so her and her husband's political connections are at least interesting, at a minimum.

Posted by Lou Loomis
A pond. Ponds good for you.
Member since Mar 2025
1943 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 6:59 pm to
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Well if she woke up they had a witness. So they had to get rid of the witness. Maybe they chose to kill her somewhere else to reduce evidence. Maybe they didn't want to kill anyone, but realized she was a witness and panicked and kidnapped her and since then have come to the grave realization they had to kill her.


This is almost verbatim what I said last week. They were in there stealing stuff they thought she was “entitled” to since her sister is pretty well off. They thought granny was asleep. Granny confronts them and granny is a little more spry than they thought she was, so he had to get rough. So the son in law tries to quiet her down or from calling 911 and he smacks her around, maybe a little too hard, and she goes out. They panic and out her in the car while they decide what to do. More panic and they kill her. Or she dies from him smacking her around at the house. Either way, they’re freaked out and bury her in the desert somewhere. And try to pretend like nothing happened.

I thought initially they sent the ransom notes to throw the coppers off the trail and buy some time while they figure out what to do. I’m not so sure about that anymore. The latest ransom notes are 100% fake. Some Nigerians just trying to make some money.

She was dead that night.
This post was edited on 2/9/26 at 7:06 pm
Posted by tilthatday
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2009
1010 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 7:06 pm to
Just a little far fetched to think this could be related to Epstein or the Clintons. With all of the people who have unloaded on them for years, why single out SG? And if you did, why not go after her, not her mother? Naw. Those folks have much more reason to go after many more and more important reporters/critics than poor Savannah.
Also: pretty clearly not a kidnapping for ransom. Kidnappers looking for a ransom don’t wait 3 days to ask for it. And they don’t send the ransom note to a tv station.
Posted by Lou Loomis
A pond. Ponds good for you.
Member since Mar 2025
1943 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 7:07 pm to
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This isn't the least bit funny junior.


Oh yeah it’s. That’s funny as hell, Mr Guthrie.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79893 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 7:12 pm to
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've already said I don't know if it's connected
So just invent some screwy theory because you're bored and you have a chance at a "I knew it! I knew it!" that has a one in 100,000 chance of being true. When it turns out to be nothing, you'll have nothing to say and move on to the next goofy theory.
Posted by HouseMom
Member since Jun 2020
1933 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 7:15 pm to
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Just a little far fetched to think this could be related to Epstein or the Clintons.


I agree, but I love a good mystery/conspiracy. Except in this case, the truth is stranger than fiction. These people are very connected to stuff that's about to go down big time. The Clinton's testifying is huge, and Prince Andrew's situation is all over the news.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10573 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 7:17 pm to
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But Trump said, something is coming and very soon. Very Soon. VERY SOON.


Congratulations I guess…

But at least use correct quote. Don’t just regurgitate what was fed to you on bluesky.

From Friday night on Air Force one.
quote:

“I think we are doing very well on that regard,” Trump said of federal investigators.

“Very well meaning we have some clues that I think are very strong, and I think we could have some answers coming up fairly soon," he added. “I’m not talking about a search. I’m talking about a solution."

"We have some things, I think, that will maybe come out reasonably soon, from DOJ or FBI, or whoever, that could be, could be definitive," he said. "A lot's taken place in the last couple of hours. A lot of things have happened with regard to that horrible situation in the last couple of hours."
https://turnto10.com/news/nation-world/we-could-have-some-answers-trump-reveals-there-are-very-strong-clues-in-guthrie-case-investigation-probe-search-disappearance-kidnapping-abduction-evidence-today-show-host-savannah-tucson-arizona-pima-county-sheriffs-department

At least Trump interacts with the press and is the one actually tweeting. Biden’s Autopen had to be propped up, and Kamala is so dumb that she must give the best blow jobs to have moved up in California politics.

quote:

Trump averaged more than two media sessions per work day as he overhauled foreign relations, trade, immigration, tax and healthcare policies — compared to President Joe Biden’s first-year rate of 1.1 media event per day (266 exchanges) and the current president’s own first-term rate of 1 per day.

Presidents Barack Obama and George W. Bush averaged 0.9 daily press interactions in their first year. Bill Clinton notched 1.4 per day, while George H.W. Bush and Ronald Reagan had 0.6 and 0.5 per day, respectively.

Many of Trump’s second-term interviews are unscheduled chats that begin when a reporter calls his cellphone, an option no other president has provided to journalists and a sharp contrast from Biden, who gave no newspaper interviews until his final months in office — after dropping his re-election bid.

Trump took questions on Air Force One or under its wing 73 times in his first year back in power — more than quadrupling Biden’s 17 such interactions.

https://nypost.com/2026/02/09/us-news/trump-nears-500-press-interactions-in-second-term-blowing-past-biden-data-show/
Posted by Disco Ball
Denham Springs
Member since May 2025
1382 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 7:20 pm to
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So the son in law tries to quiet her down or from calling 911 and he smacks her around, maybe a little too hard, and she goes out. They panic and out her in the car while they decide what to do. More panic and they kill her. Or she dies from him smacking her around at the house. Either way, they’re freaked out and bury her in the desert somewhere. And try to pretend like nothing happened.


They would never bury her body.
They gain nothing unless she is declared dead and her estate can be probated.
Without proof of death aka "a body" probating her estate would be a lengthy process
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