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Return to work at reduced hours vs staying on unemployment
Posted on 4/24/20 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 4/24/20 at 12:25 pm
Friend of mine got a call yesterday from their employer stating that they were going to be brought back to work but at “reduced hours.” That hasn’t been fully defined yet.
I am on board with the concept that you can’t refuse to return to work and continue to accept unemployment payments. But what happens if the employer tells you to come back for 10 hours a week or some such?
Can the employee refuse and continue to accept the unemployment payments in this instance?
I am on board with the concept that you can’t refuse to return to work and continue to accept unemployment payments. But what happens if the employer tells you to come back for 10 hours a week or some such?
Can the employee refuse and continue to accept the unemployment payments in this instance?
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Posted on 4/24/20 at 12:28 pm to jbgleason
From what I heard, at least in Louisiana, employers will report that the original job was offered to the employee to return. This is in an effort to kick that employee off the unemployment benefit and keep them from turning down a viable opportunity. However, there isn't a reporting mechanism in place for this yet or something.
I have no idea if this is actually the case, just what I heard from a few different people. Also, I would imagine if the original job wasn't re-offered for the employee to return to, it would be a different scenario.
I have no idea if this is actually the case, just what I heard from a few different people. Also, I would imagine if the original job wasn't re-offered for the employee to return to, it would be a different scenario.
This post was edited on 4/24/20 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 4/24/20 at 12:29 pm to jbgleason
Posted on 4/24/20 at 12:29 pm to jbgleason
Unemployment should pay up to the minimum payment for the week.
Example, the unemployment weekly pay is $900 ($300 state, $600 federal adjustment)
If your friend is called back and earns say $500 for the week, they're supposed to pay you for the difference, thus get a $400 check for "underemployment".
However, I'm not sure about this difference taking that $600 bump that the feds added
Example, the unemployment weekly pay is $900 ($300 state, $600 federal adjustment)
If your friend is called back and earns say $500 for the week, they're supposed to pay you for the difference, thus get a $400 check for "underemployment".
However, I'm not sure about this difference taking that $600 bump that the feds added
Posted on 4/24/20 at 12:31 pm to East Coast Band
quote:Louisiana does not, if you make more that 250 ish.. you don't get anything.
Return to work at reduced hours vs staying on unemployment
Unemployment should pay up to the minimum payment for the week.
Example, the unemployment weekly pay is $900 ($300 state, $600 federal adjustment)
If your friend is called back and earns say $500 for the week, they're supposed to pay you for the difference, thus get a $400 check for "underemployment".
However, I'm not sure about this difference taking that $600 bump that the feds added
Posted on 4/24/20 at 12:32 pm to jbgleason
Does your friend want his job back in the long run?
Posted on 4/24/20 at 12:33 pm to jbgleason
If you are offered your job back but refuse it to stay on UE, you should be reported and lose UE.
Seems reasonable.
Seems reasonable.
Posted on 4/24/20 at 12:34 pm to jbgleason
Frick anyone who stays unemployed to collect a check from taxpayers.
Posted on 4/24/20 at 12:34 pm to Scruffy
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If you are offered your job back but refuse it to stay on UE, you should be reported and lose UE.
With no provisions for high-risk people?
Posted on 4/24/20 at 12:36 pm to Slagathor
quote:You can have leeway if you have a verified physician’s letter stating that you have a high risk condition.
With no provisions for high-risk people?
Claiming one without verification should be insufficient.
Posted on 4/24/20 at 12:38 pm to jbgleason
I'd only go back if my pay for those reduced hours is going to be more than the unemployment benefits. Sorry not sorry for looking out for my family's financial well being.
Posted on 4/24/20 at 12:39 pm to Scruffy
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Claiming one without verification should be insufficient.
I would be on board with this if it was also opened to those in the same household as medically-documented high-risk people as well.
I know this is ripe for abuse, but to do otherwise will create a huge crack for people to fall in IMO. We could intelligently create oversight for this.
Posted on 4/24/20 at 12:41 pm to jbgleason
There should be an offset UE payment for a certain amount of time, thus requiring the employee to return to work in order to remain on UE for the balance of lost wages. If the job proves to not be viable longterm, as in it remains at a level well below the original job, it should be on the employee to find something else at that point, or agree to work for the new, limited wages.
Certain jobs in certain fields are just not going to return to normal for quite some time.
Certain jobs in certain fields are just not going to return to normal for quite some time.
Posted on 4/24/20 at 12:50 pm to East Coast Band
This is incorrect. In Georgia, if you qualify for any unemployment benefit (even $1), the you will be getting the federal benefit of $600. The $600 is not truncated or adjusted based on the amount of state benefit received. As a matter of fact the most profitable situation for any employee is to work reduced hours, then file for partial unemployment, and get paid by your employer, your state and the federal government.
Posted on 4/24/20 at 12:55 pm to jbgleason
Here is the thing. There is the way it's supposed to work and the way it works.
There are hundreds of thousands of people per state on unemployment.
There is zero way for any of the state unemployment agencies to do any checking at all. Why my state just decided to automatically accept any applications and waive essentially all requirements.
My guess is you can not only turn down job offers or quit but just straight go back to work and collect paycheck and unemployment.
It will never be sorted out and all the lost or never looked at paperwork will never surface again.
What do you have to lose anyway? Most states if they find they over pay you add it to an overpayment tab you pay back with essentially zero interest. No loss to game the system.
There are hundreds of thousands of people per state on unemployment.
There is zero way for any of the state unemployment agencies to do any checking at all. Why my state just decided to automatically accept any applications and waive essentially all requirements.
My guess is you can not only turn down job offers or quit but just straight go back to work and collect paycheck and unemployment.
It will never be sorted out and all the lost or never looked at paperwork will never surface again.
What do you have to lose anyway? Most states if they find they over pay you add it to an overpayment tab you pay back with essentially zero interest. No loss to game the system.
This post was edited on 4/24/20 at 12:59 pm
Posted on 4/24/20 at 12:55 pm to nealnan
quote:
if you qualify for any unemployment benefit (even $1), the you will be getting the federal benefit of $600.
So, let's say the Georgia unemployment pays up to $300/ week. Your gross pay for the week is $295.
Georgia will pay you $5, and then you'll get the $600 federal,too, totalling $900.
If your gross pay is $305, you get nothing from the state and nothing from federal, totalling $305.
Is this correct?
Posted on 4/24/20 at 1:07 pm to The Spleen
quote:And when the $600 Federal addition goes away and you are competing with the other nimrod who did the same for the few available jobs? Shortsighted.
I'd only go back if my pay for those reduced hours is going to be more than the unemployment benefits. Sorry not sorry for looking out for my family's financial well being
Posted on 4/24/20 at 1:07 pm to jbgleason
You get unemployment for the 30 hours.
When you fill out each week it asks how many hours you have worked.
When you fill out each week it asks how many hours you have worked.
This post was edited on 4/24/20 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 4/24/20 at 1:09 pm to East Coast Band
quote:Not sure were you’re from, but in Louisiana the max pre-tax unemployment is $247 a week and $222.30 or $762.30 after taxes with the $600 weekly stimulus.
300 state
Posted on 4/24/20 at 1:13 pm to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
quote:
And when the $600 Federal addition goes away and you are competing with the other nimrod who did the same for the few available jobs? Shortsighted.
That's certainly a risk involved, but then so is going back to a job at reduced hours. What if that company decides to close its doors permanently?
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