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re: Return to work at reduced hours vs staying on unemployment

Posted on 4/24/20 at 3:43 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/24/20 at 3:43 pm to
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Wait, Unemployment is $900 bucks?


In washington State it could be as much as 1300 a week with the federal add on.
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
19461 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 3:46 pm to
That's a pretty messed up scenario. Employers should do better.
There's a difference between minimum wage bums not wanting to go back to work and hard workers being screwed out of fair pay.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 3:48 pm to
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There's a difference between minimum wage bums not wanting to go back to work and hard workers being screwed out of fair pay.


This is a government created crisis. Sadly they dont pay, the taxpayer does.
This post was edited on 4/24/20 at 3:49 pm
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 3:49 pm to
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Does your friend want his job back in the long run?


Well surviving and paying your bills in the short term is also important. If the employer isn't offering enough hours to actually help you pay your bills, then I would stay and figure it out on the back end.

Your employer may very well fold in the next 6 months anyway.
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
19461 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 3:56 pm to
If I am an employer trying to open back up I will not expect my staff to want to come back at half the hours they were at before. Even with no stimulus or CARES that is still BS.
Posted by madamsquirrel
The big somewhere out there
Member since Jul 2009
56592 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 3:56 pm to
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I would be on board with this if it was also opened to those in the same household as medically-documented high-risk people as well.

I know this is ripe for abuse, but to do otherwise will create a huge crack for people to fall in IMO. We could intelligently create oversight for this.



this exact scenario is causing me a huge panic attack currently. My work is ok with my medical reasons to stay home, my doctor is fine with documenting it, but I hope and pray my husband's work would be agreeable. He can work 100% from home but it is NOT his company's norm prior to this pandemic.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 3:57 pm to
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But what happens if the employer tells you to come back for 10 hours a week or some such?


You can still file for unemployment in that scenario I believe.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
11011 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 5:51 pm to
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quote: the $600 a flat amount regardless of what you earned before or what state is also paying?


Yes


Well that is F'd up. Probably what I ranted some for Trump signing it, but I hadn't looked it up since.

Also probably motivating a fair amount of the people complaining about reopening economy.

Using Texas scenarios A person who used to make $31,200 a year, but now making weekly what would be $58,240. Plus $1,200 one time payment.

Person making $62,400 or higher now making $58,240 plus $1,200 one time payment.

Who is more motivated to push going back to work full time? Who is more likely to vote for candidates pushing universal income this November?

Are the people with "pay increases" due to unemployment still allowed to skirt rent payments? If anything they should be held even more responsible for their bills. Their disposable income went up.

The people seeing a decrease in their disposable income when filing unemployment due to shutdown and who are paying a mortgage get forbearance and lump sum payment at the end with less money.

These things always seem to crap on middle class. They should have limited increase to what was being earned before and slid that money to being closer to making those whole who were making $60,000 to $75,000 a year before laid off.

Make more people in middle class closer to being whole by not paying anyone more than they made, and also then deduct from combined state and fed what they earn each week or what employer offered to them to work. No games to keep fed payment. No pay raises through government unemployment payments.
This post was edited on 4/24/20 at 7:42 pm
Posted by John88
Member since Sep 2015
6439 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 6:57 pm to
Posted by John88
Member since Sep 2015
6439 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 6:58 pm to
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