re: Reports of over 20 young camp girls missing In TX floods

Yes several of the camps had no campers

A number of them take the 4th of July week 2 weeks off

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Reading the TexAgs thread - there seems to be some accounts that water was coming from above Camp Mystic - not just rising from the river - maybe from other creeks. Don’t know the area so not sure if plausible or true. If true, I’m sure that wildly changes any dynamics on the ground.

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There was one story coming from a kid’s parent about a counselor leading girls up the side of a hill to wait out the storm and then later helped the kids get across what was said by the kid to be a river but likely a creek to get to the cypress lake Camp, and I have thought the creek was the dry Edmunson creek that seems to mostly drain rain water from that valley going back a couple of miles. The hill they went up likely had rain run off coming down that wasn’t emptying on the Edmunson creek side from what I have read.

There is also Cypress Creek that runs thru the camp which has several ponds or small lakes made with weirs on camp and also on property on other side of the camp (forms Moore’s lakes or something like that on neighboring property) on top of being a drainage creek for valley longer than Edmunson and even seems to have another named dry creek that would empty into it along with the USGS showing multiple other drainage lines in smaller valleys that would also empty rain into Cypress creek before it gets into Camp Mystic. Any rain falling within several miles south and southeast of Mystic likely added a lot of water to cypress creek that was trying to drain into the flooding south fork of the Guadalupe river at the same time.

I don’t know if 1987 flood was getting it as bad from multiple sources & directions or exactly how those cabins lost on the 4th didn’t take on water in 1987 unless the levels during floods are measured from the river’s levels without the weirs instead of the level made by the weir right along the camp (using a topography map estimate the cabins taken in flood looked 22 to 23 feet above level of the water made by the weir but closer to at least 29 to maybe 32 feet above the level using river level right after the weir), but regardless I can still see them focusing on those other cabins first as they were both closer to river and lower by maybe 4 to 6 feet. It also doesn’t seem unreasonable for them to be greatly surprised by the speed and the levels of the flooding compared to prior years including possibly the floods in 1987 and thinking they had more time to get to the cabins of the girls who have died or are still missing.

Also those measurements are a big if as I was just quickly using the topography map at the USGS site which didn’t allow me to zoom in close on phone to see all the cabins clearly, so slight changes in starting and ending points made changes in feet not inches which is reason for ranges. I also don’t know how accurate the website is in the first place or when using their tools on a mobile phone and touch screen like I was doing.

How many of the original missing have they found alive?

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Sure it’s already been posted but stories out about a Coastie crew that dropped a rescue swimmer into camp mystic and he stayed on ground and coordinated rescues so the helo could carry more kids out. It was his first mission. Came through the same storm from CAS Corpus.

You can say what you want about the Coast Guard, but their helo drivers are first class professionals that fly in some of the nastiest weather Mother Nature can put out.

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The guy also had a baller job on Wall Street and quit to join the Coast Guard.

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I would imagine he’s not the only one trying to get some NatGeo pics

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Oh, there are plenty others. They had like a 20 mile radius no-fly zone on day 1. A day or so in they lifted it, but the drones got so bad that they had to reinstate a smaller one, and eventually enlarge it and add a flyway back to wherever most assets are stationed. It is a big problem.

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I don't believe there have been any

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A gal and her mom were just rescued from a roof 5 hours ago so there are alive people still out there

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Pretty awesome

thats wonderful news,, i pray we get more

thank you

I'm very happy for the news and the down votes I'll get for this I accept but those weren't missing if the cop down the street was talking to them over a loudspeaker the whole time

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A gal and her mom were just rescued from a roof 5 hours ago so there are alive people still out there

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Was that rescue today? Or is it just a report about an earlier rescue?

Nevermind i read all the way through I think it was from a day or 2 ago. The neighbor helped them off roof.

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As water levels receded, a neighbor was able to get a ladder up to the roof, and the mother-daughter duo got down to safety.

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the news story was posted 5 or six hours ago that doesn't mean the events the event in the story took place five hours ago