re: Regardless if you believe in man made climate change...

I have always said being a good environmental steward is important.

Most trash is generated by leftists. Look at large cities versus smaller towns. The per capita amount of trash is way higher in blue cities.

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Even if we start cleaning up our trash India and China are still gonna have a lot of trash, so there's no point. Nothing anyone does matters.

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Yea only European/Western nations seem to try. Until other nations get on board, there’s no point killing our economies trying to make up for their failures. If China/Russia/India would simply adhere to similar pollution regs as ours I bet the improvement would be so drastic that we wouldn’t need to push harder to phase out fossil fuels.

But they know that. It’s all bullshite to try to control people.

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Don't you think we could live in a more environmentally friendly way?

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Sure, like others have mentioned, simply picking up trash, eliminating single use plastic bottles, plastic bags, etc. Also, given what it takes with fossils fuels to produce them, I don’t think all these batteries are good for us in the end. Convenient, but not so friendly.

Nobody can have an actual debate about climate change because half the people google “why climate change is real” and the other half google “why climate change is a hoax” and then cite really inaccurate studies, talk over one another, and refuse to budge even a step.

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not a climate change person by any stretch

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Same here.

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However I have made one simple change and am ok with my contribution to try to save the planet

Instead of drinking 3 or 4 bottles of water a day, I use reusable plastic cups and have a Brita water tank from Home Depot that stays in the fridge

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Disagree here in that you're not saving the planet. There's no evidence that anything we've done is harming the planet. We're not making anything new that didn't already come from the planet. Nature can balance itself. For instance, more trees can balance out the higher levels of carbon. What you are doing is making the world a better place and helping the natural flow, which I agree with and am in favor of.

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Don't you think we could live in a more environmentally friendly way?

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No, because Leftists are too insane to have a real discussion as to what that means.

You can blame the progressives for hijacking environmentalism, labeling it climate change, with the only solution to the problem is government spending and encouraging others to spend.

If we spent the hundreds of billions we have spent on green initiatives on waste collection, litter pickup and littering prosecutions this place would look like Singapore.

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You think conservatives are pushing for trash everywhere?? Lol, holy fricken shite!

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No. I meant that environmental conservation has somehow been “claimed” by the Left. Conservatives don’t have to give up very much to say “we hate litter and shite too!”

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Don't you think we could live in a more environmentally friendly way? Just look around at the trash all over the planet...Humans are actually pretty disgusting

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Well cleaning up trash is one thing I can get behind, and I am all for removing the plastics from the ocean. What I don't get behind is mythical doom predictions based on zero evidence. The two are not the same. Never do I hear a climate activist say: you know we should clean up all the garbage in our waterways.

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NY State banned those "single use" plastic bags grocery stores and others commonly used. I always used those as garbage pail liners, but now I get big and useless paper bags to dispose of and buy larger tall kitchen plastic bags as garbage pail liners. The net result is more useless waste and more cost which is all too often par for government.

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And resusable grocery bags are far superior. Hold way more, sturdy, have handles, etc. it’s amazing people don’t use these more. Just keep a few in my car folded up in the trunk.