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re: Proliferation of electric vehicles
Posted on 8/30/19 at 12:32 pm to Y.A. Tittle
Posted on 8/30/19 at 12:32 pm to Y.A. Tittle
That and I can’t wait for the daily rolling brownouts from the additional grid stress.
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Posted on 8/30/19 at 12:32 pm to crazycubes
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For me it’s economics. We looked at electric SUV (we have two kids, we want extra room). The electric equivalent to the vehicle we wanted was $50,000 more. And , it had a range of 300 miles versus 600 miles. Eh. I like the electric vehicles, but we are not there yet.
I'm not opposed to them either but it would take me a hell of a long time to recoup the extra cost (if i ever would) over the $75/month I spend on gas.
Posted on 8/30/19 at 12:32 pm to colorchangintiger
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Probably because their livelihoods are directly or indirectly tied to oil.
How much of the oil industry do you think depends on the use of car engine oil?
Posted on 8/30/19 at 12:34 pm to Brosef Stalin
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Will need charging stations on every corner like we have with gas stations now before they get mainstream.
Electricity is everywhere. Charge at home, work, grocery store, etc...
Posted on 8/30/19 at 12:35 pm to Brosef Stalin
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Will need charging stations on every corner like we have with gas stations now before they get mainstream.
The outlet in your garage will be the charging station for the majority of drivers. Most people don't drive 150 miles away from home everyday.
This post was edited on 8/30/19 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 8/30/19 at 12:35 pm to Brosef Stalin
Yep. The bigger the inconvenience, the less the demand will continue to be. As the infrastructure grows, so will the numbers of EVs on the road. That includes widespread dealerships and shops with the ability to perform general maintenance. The bigger the hassle to keep them on the road is, the less likely the vehicles are to fully catch on.
It will be interesting to watch the growth.
It will be interesting to watch the growth.
Posted on 8/30/19 at 12:43 pm to Sweltering Chill
quote:If you start sentences like this then there’s a 100% chance you’re an insecure fig
You do realize that technology changes and improves rapidly, right? You realize that battery charging times have already improved dramatically , and will continue to do so, right?
Posted on 8/30/19 at 12:43 pm to Sweltering Chill
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You do realize that technology changes and improves rapidly, right? You realize that battery charging times have already improved dramatically , and will continue to do so, right?
Except they haven't. Energy density of lithium batteries today have changed very little in the last 15 years, they are cheaper but the fundamental chemistry is still the same. There are other chemistries but they rely on extremely toxic, unstable, or commercially unsuitable designs. Charging times are a matter of techniques like pre-cooling the battery packs and better algorithms to force feed the batteries but there are still limits due to the chemistry.
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The oil and gas company talking points are hilarious and sad.
Your poor STEM education talking points are hilarious and a sad commentary of the failure of public education systems.
Posted on 8/30/19 at 12:44 pm to GRTiger
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My wife's car is a 2018 and mine a 2019
subtle
Posted on 8/30/19 at 12:59 pm to H. E. Pennypacker
EVs have way fewer moving parts, so the costs to operate and maintain are way lower. In fact, I believe some EV makers are considering providing lifetime maintenance 'fo free.
Posted on 8/30/19 at 1:01 pm to H. E. Pennypacker
took long enough for that. We replaced my wife's 8 year old car after she was one of 4 cars smashed by one awful driver. Mine was bought used, it was 9 years old, had 140k miles on it, and needed way too much maintenance. We aren't car people except to drive them until they are no longer useful.
The years of the cars were important to the point of us not needing to buy another one for a long enough period of time to make the original thought relevant.
Posted on 8/30/19 at 1:02 pm to Sweltering Chill
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It’s only a matter of time before EVs comprise a majority of vehicles on the road.. will never be ALL vehicles, since there will always be classic/old cars on the road with combustible engines, but 25 years from now, i doubt you’ll be able to purchase a new car that isn’t all-electric.
You are more right than wrong, however there will still be a market for non-electric vehicles, just less availability and with a mark-up. I think very soon more 2 or 2+ car households will have at least one electric vehicle that is used for local/daily trips.
That said, we are way closer to electric vehicles taking over a significant portion of the market than we are with self-driving vehicles.
Posted on 8/30/19 at 1:06 pm to Cajun367
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if your average consumer is a "hur hur, ma diesel rolls coal" then a long time. but I think it will catch on quick, especially once they get the trucks right. that's a huge market segment that could truly benefit from electric power.
I don't think anyone has a problem driving an electric vehicle. And they can get the trucks right.
The problem is 2 fold right now
1. Electric vehicles are expensive. You'd expect cost differences to narrow over time though.
2. Charging network. Once more charging infrastructure is built more people will buy electric cars.
Posted on 8/30/19 at 1:07 pm to GRTiger
Im going to hang onto internal combustion as long as I can.
Posted on 8/30/19 at 1:08 pm to crazycubes
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For me it’s economics. We looked at electric SUV (we have two kids, we want extra room). The electric equivalent to the vehicle we wanted was $50,000 more. And , it had a range of 300 miles versus 600 miles. Eh. I like the electric vehicles, but we are not there yet.
And lets not forget towing, etc. Imagine needing to two something for more than a few miles...
Posted on 8/30/19 at 1:08 pm to BuckeyeFan87
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But simply put, electric vehicles are perfoamce beasts compared to the average daily driver.
Yeah...tell that to my wife the speedster who curses all the slow-arse Prius's in the left lane of the interstate.
Posted on 8/30/19 at 1:09 pm to Sweltering Chill
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You do realize that technology changes and improves rapidly, right? You realize that battery charging times have already improved dramatically , and will continue to do so, right?
The oil and gas company talking points are hilarious and sad.
Somebody brought the stupid today.
Posted on 8/30/19 at 1:09 pm to GetCocky11
quote:So was Thanos, but we know how that turned out for him.
It is inevitable.
Posted on 8/30/19 at 1:19 pm to Diseasefreeforall
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work, grocery store, etc...
How many of these have enough dedicate 20-30 amp circuits available for a parking lot full of cars?
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