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Our Last Ford F-150 Lightning EV Pickup Road Trip Was a Nightmare
Posted on 12/25/23 at 7:59 pm
Posted on 12/25/23 at 7:59 pm
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I've learned quite a few things driving MotorTrend's owned 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning Lariat extended range pickup for the past year. For starters, my ABCs: Always Be Charging. If there's an open plug nearby, our Lightning is hooked to it so as to not waste the downtime. Lesson two: As my colleagues running our 2023 F-150 Lightning XLT in Detroit have learned, speed matters, and 70 mph is the frustratingly low sweet spot between maximum speed and range. And lastly, the 20 minutes or so spent route planning via the FordPass app and third-party sources like PlugShare can save at least twice that time on a road trip. Unfortunately, that last one went out the window when my wife and I got the call Labor Day afternoon about a family emergency nearly 600 miles away. Without hesitation, we grabbed our suitcases, stuffed them with clothes, and piled into the Lightning. That's where things almost immediately went awry.
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We pulled off I-5 with 37 miles of range and a 14 percent charge, navigated through the 98 Tesla Supercharger stalls, dodged the holiday crowds stopping for dinner, and found the distinctive green glow of Harris Ranch's six Electrify America towers. Two were occupied by charging vehicles, one was completely offline with its screen dark, and one showed a "Charger Unavailable!" message, but the final two appeared to be online. We plugged into the first open tower, yet despite futzing with the connector a few minutes, the charging session wouldn't start. I reached over to grab the cable from the adjacent charger to try that. No dice.
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After waiting on hold for about 10 minutes, I finally got an agent on the line and explained the issue. She told me that the Harris Ranch chargers were "tagged for maintenance" and apologized for the trouble. She tried a reset, but the four broken towers were unresponsive. My best bet, she said, would be to turn tail and double back 45 minutes and 30 miles to Kettlemen City, where the chargers were online.
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Nearly two agonizing hours later, I was finally able to get our Ford plugged in and charging at the absurdly low rate of just 33 kW. It was now almost 8 p.m., and our midnight arrival now looked more like 2 a.m.
After nearly an hour on the charger and without much to show for it—64 percent state of charge and just 182 miles of range—we cut our losses and planned on stopping again at another Electrify America station the route planner added for us, 100 miles up the road. Once there, we charger surfed to find a working one (the first 350-kW tower we plugged into was barely pushing 40 kW) and watched our estimated arrival time creep up to past 3 a.m.
We were tired and angry. Angry at the situation. Angry at Electrify America for being so historically and uniquely awful at its one job. Angry at the Ford Nav system for sending us to a charging station that, given available data, it could have known was, at best, a huge gamble on a holiday weekend.
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I don't know why anybody tries any sort of road trips in an EV these days unless it's in a Tesla. Not really sure why Elon is opening up a majority of the Tesla chargers to other auto makers in 2024 and seemingly getting nothing in return. As a Tesla owner that does a lot of road trips myself, selfishly I don't want my wait times to go up.
Posted on 12/25/23 at 8:03 pm to rickgrimes
EVs are garbage outside of a city work commute or running errands
At best to make a road trip tolerable it takes meticulous planning to be near chargers when needed and still adds time to the trip even with fast chargers.
At worst in an emergency it’s a complete nightmare. Gas stations are abundant and take 5 min to fill up
At best to make a road trip tolerable it takes meticulous planning to be near chargers when needed and still adds time to the trip even with fast chargers.
At worst in an emergency it’s a complete nightmare. Gas stations are abundant and take 5 min to fill up
Posted on 12/25/23 at 8:04 pm to rickgrimes
Imagine getting an electric vehicle... and it being a Ford
Posted on 12/25/23 at 8:04 pm to rickgrimes
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Unfortunately, that last one went out the window when my wife and I got the call Labor Day afternoon about a family emergency nearly 600 miles away.
Should've driven his EV to the airport. I'm a big fan of EVs but a 600 mile road trip with a vehicle that doesn't have an extensive charging network isn't very responsible. You need to know their limitations.
Posted on 12/25/23 at 8:07 pm to rickgrimes
It's mind boggling that EV's not being efficient is surprising to people.
Posted on 12/25/23 at 8:07 pm to deltaland
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EVs are garbage outside of a city work commute or running errands
So 90% of vehicle use?
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At worst in an emergency it’s a complete nightmare. Gas stations are abundant and take 5 min to fill up
Someone's never evaced from an hurricane.
Posted on 12/25/23 at 8:09 pm to deltaland
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EVs are garbage outside of a city work commute or running errands
And this is about the ceiling. In city usage is fine. Unless they can find faster ways of charging then this is DOA.
Posted on 12/25/23 at 8:11 pm to Turnblad85
Imagine a world of EV's trying to flee New Orleans at hurricane time
Posted on 12/25/23 at 8:11 pm to rickgrimes
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EV … Road Trip
I feel this is like saying “I married a stripper and it went terribly”
EV’s are good for city commutes , NOT road trips
Posted on 12/25/23 at 8:12 pm to rickgrimes
None of this is really an issue with Teslas.
Tesla superchargers are great, quick and the car and trip planner makes it a breeze.
The problem is all the other carmakers trying to (or being forced to) play catchup and then ignoring everything Teslas done.
Tesla allowing other cars to use their chargers and all standardizing to the same plug will go a long way.
Tesla superchargers are great, quick and the car and trip planner makes it a breeze.
The problem is all the other carmakers trying to (or being forced to) play catchup and then ignoring everything Teslas done.
Tesla allowing other cars to use their chargers and all standardizing to the same plug will go a long way.
This post was edited on 12/25/23 at 8:18 pm
Posted on 12/25/23 at 8:14 pm to rickgrimes
EVs arent gonna be ready for long road trips for 10-20 years. Not sure why people keep pointing out the issues that everyone knows already exists.
Posted on 12/25/23 at 8:19 pm to diat150
As said above, isn't an issue with a tesla
Posted on 12/25/23 at 8:22 pm to Turnblad85
What people don’t realize, where do you charge when living in apartments, duplexes with no garages, basically in 75-80% of residences in the United States?
For those living in single family homes, you might be able to charge every night, but how many would need an electric service upgrade for an EV charging station? I no we would, and our house was built 40 years ago.
For those living in single family homes, you might be able to charge every night, but how many would need an electric service upgrade for an EV charging station? I no we would, and our house was built 40 years ago.
Posted on 12/25/23 at 8:24 pm to hg
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Imagine getting an electric vehicle... and it being a Ford
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Posted on 12/25/23 at 8:26 pm to rickgrimes
Stay off highways and towing with evs and they will be fine.
Posted on 12/25/23 at 8:27 pm to Turnblad85
quote:I will not knock EVs, since they serve a purpose, but the situation is wholly different.
Someone's never evaced from an hurricane.
I can plan ahead with extra gas, have my tank at full, and have the ability to fill up on the road in a matter of minutes.
That is not possible with EVs.
It isn’t a negative to own an EV, but you should have an ICE along with it.
You need an ICE.
Posted on 12/25/23 at 8:28 pm to rickgrimes
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64 percent state of charge and just 182 miles of range
Is 70% the most ideal charge? Elon had a good explanation on charging on his last JRE.
Posted on 12/25/23 at 8:30 pm to rickgrimes
Doesn’t Bill Gates or someone who preaches environmentalism have a few billion dollars he/they could dedicate to dotting the countryside with free charging outlets?
Seems like that sort of thing would be a simple way of walking the talk.
Seems like that sort of thing would be a simple way of walking the talk.
Posted on 12/25/23 at 8:32 pm to rickgrimes
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Elon is opening up a majority of the Tesla chargers to other auto makers in 2024 and seemingly getting nothing in return
Tesla will lose market share as more manufacturers get ramped up. They have the most stable, consistent, and available charging network. They are in a good position to be the de facto charging network if they want to be 1.
It won't be every charging station open to other autos. My guess they'll focus mostly on interstate travel and ask m still give preference to their own autos inside major metro.
As far as the primary article goes, yeah, it's hard to imagine any non tesla wanting to take a road trip without being able to anticipate headaches from the less reliable charging networks. Will get better over time.
Posted on 12/25/23 at 8:33 pm to Turnblad85
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EVs are garbage outside of a city work commute or running errands
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So 90% of vehicle use?
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Gas stations are abundant and take 5 min to fill up
quote:Someone's never been the 98% that never has to evac from a hurricane.
Someone's never evaced from an hurricane.
holy anecdotal evidence batman. what's not anecdotal is that circa December 2023, this enormous country is not ready for the crippling mandates and rules coming down from the ruling class czars whose boots you love to lick.
calling city commuting 90% of the driving americans have to do throughout the lifetime of the car's ownership is bullshite. you know it, we know it.
America is the size of Europe. a 2 hour drive for a brit is considered substantial. millions upon millions of Americans look at an 8 hour drive as the bare minimum on deciding whether or not to fly nowadays. 2 hours is a trip to Costco.
we're not ready, but career politicians and bureacrats with ulterior motives and a rock hard erection from their daily expansion of power over our every day lives are making us do it anyway, then using mindless plebs like you to gaslight us into not believing what we see with our very eyes.
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