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re: Our Last Ford F-150 Lightning EV Pickup Road Trip Was a Nightmare
Posted on 12/26/23 at 3:13 pm to rickgrimes
Posted on 12/26/23 at 3:13 pm to rickgrimes
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Ford
They've gone from Fix Or Repair Daily
To
Fails On Recharging Daily
Posted on 12/26/23 at 3:43 pm to Turnblad85
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Also consider that every single home and business has the potential to be a charging station.
Why would businesses besides Whole Foods and gay bars want to be a charging station?
Posted on 12/26/23 at 4:26 pm to el Gaucho
No issue with evs, just be sure you understand its limitations when buying and have a charging plan.
Posted on 12/26/23 at 4:33 pm to rickgrimes
Ev vehicles are made for when they roll out 15 minutes cities. That's the canary in the mine they don't tell you about that is the real reason the govt is pushing Ev vehicles
Posted on 12/26/23 at 6:02 pm to WeeWee
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Imagine a world of EV's trying to flee New Orleans at hurricane time
EVs actually do a really good job of holding a charge in stop and go traffic.
The regenerative nature of anything with a battery and motor says this makes sense. I think the intent of the other poster whom I quoted had more to do with the readiness of EV's to leave at last minute and how much battery is available. It took us 3-4 hours to get out of NOLA from uptown via twin span to the North Slidell junction.
Posted on 12/26/23 at 7:08 pm to tadman
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the readiness of EV's to leave at last minute
If we are talking hurricanes here I would hope someone would have the sense to charge
Posted on 12/26/23 at 7:32 pm to Scuttle But
quote:I mean, I said "city commuting for 90% of the lifetime ownership of an American vehicle." these things are not the same: millions of city dwelling Americans will traverse this enormous country next week at distances far greater than 300+ miles on a road trip, for whatever reason. the electric car itself is only half the equation. it took 100+ years to get the gas station infrastructure that we have, yet the ruling class are forcing this shite on us overnight.
I mean, it's probably more than 90% for 90% of the population.
quote:it depends on what you mean by, "the future," in both its time and scale?
anyone under the illusion that EVs aren't the future is delusional.
is the future 10 years out and all new cars being electric? if so, YOU are delusional. Literally. if that scale of consumerism is in store for the next decade, which isn't very long at all economically and geopolitically speaking, then if you think there won't be chaos from African mines down to your local Costco charging station, then, again, YOU are delusional.
FTR, from someone who runs, owns, operates and maintains every type of equipment and truck from 80k pound excavators and 20k pound tractor trailers, down to a weedeater, I'd take electric over ICE's every day of the week if there were no tradeoffs. but if you think this shite is going to happen in 10 to 15 years on the back of crippling government mandates, and we're all coming out on the other side unscathed, then you are living in your little white collar cubicle of delusion. there's so many moving parts to making this world go round that most don't know anything about, and if you think it's happening because daddy government says, "let it be so" then you are going to be sadly mistaken.
Posted on 12/26/23 at 7:34 pm to Turnblad85
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Turnblad85
quote:thank god turnblad85 came in with the crippling retort. I've no rebuttal son, I've got nothing.
goddman man. thats one hell of a melt
Posted on 12/26/23 at 7:43 pm to Turnblad85
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Someone's never evaced from an hurricane.
If you evacuate for a hurricane in an EV you deserve every ounce of misery coming to you
Posted on 12/26/23 at 8:07 pm to Scuttle But
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Well for one the charging infrastructure will only improve over time. In 10-15 years there's going to be a lot more charging stations than there are gas pumps
Lololololololol
Posted on 12/26/23 at 8:11 pm to Puffoluffagus
It’s not the total draw, it’s the panel space. To add a 30-40 amp circuit amounts to adding 15-20% capacity. I don’t have it in my 200 A panel, which means upgrading to 250-300 A. No thank you.
Posted on 12/26/23 at 8:18 pm to Scuttle But
As much as I like your handle, you really are a nut, no offense.
Posted on 12/26/23 at 8:18 pm to Scuttle But
You sound like a person that opines on stuff without having a clue as to what is up or down. Many apartment complexes are adding charging stations? I haven’t seen one in my area. Not one.
$400 to put in a plug? Do you even have a clue where electricity comes from? Nothing to be ashamed of (sarcasm). The GM CEO doesn’t know. You have to have sufficient capacity in your service panel to be able to install a “plug” for an EV in your garage, if you even have one. JFC.
$400 to put in a plug? Do you even have a clue where electricity comes from? Nothing to be ashamed of (sarcasm). The GM CEO doesn’t know. You have to have sufficient capacity in your service panel to be able to install a “plug” for an EV in your garage, if you even have one. JFC.
Posted on 12/26/23 at 8:26 pm to Deplorableinohio
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$400 to put in a plug? Do you even have a clue where electricity comes from? Nothing to be ashamed of (sarcasm). The GM CEO doesn’t know. You have to have sufficient capacity in your service panel to be able to install a “plug” for an EV in your garage, if you even have one. JFC.
It's no different than putting an outlet for your dryer in.
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Many apartment complexes are adding charging stations? I haven’t seen one in my area. Not one.
I live in Zachary, not exactly a very metropolitan area, and there are several apartments that have then.
Posted on 12/26/23 at 8:30 pm to mudshuvl05
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is the future 10 years out and all new cars being electric? if so, YOU are delusional.
No I think it'll be longer than that. But I do think it's coming. It just makes too much sense.
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. it took 100+ years to get the gas station infrastructure that we have, yet the ruling class are forcing this shite on us overnight.
As I've said several times, I don't think the government should be forcing anything on anyone. If anything they'll slow the transition. I support everyone's right tk buy as many F-350s and coal roll all day long. Buy I also think EVs are the future and will win out over ICE on their own.
Posted on 12/26/23 at 8:34 pm to Scuttle But
What did you get banned for?
Posted on 12/26/23 at 9:18 pm to Scuttle But
Dryer outlet? JFC. Do you have the capacity in the service panel? We have a 200 A service and no more room. So need to upgrade the panel. That’s a major electrical upgrade, and expensive.
Ok. I’ll bite. How many apartments do they have? How many charging stations are installed today?
If not installed yet, when will they be installed, how many, and who’s paying for it?
Ok. I’ll bite. How many apartments do they have? How many charging stations are installed today?
If not installed yet, when will they be installed, how many, and who’s paying for it?
Posted on 12/26/23 at 9:23 pm to rickgrimes
It’ll be a cold day in hell before I trade my diesel in for a glorified golf cart that i have to sit an hour or more at a gas station to charge my vehicle. I’ll gladly keep on polluting the air and going about my day while you’re sitting at the charging station still with your thumb up your arse. But at least you’re doing your part to go green! AOC and the squad would be proud!
This post was edited on 12/26/23 at 9:27 pm
Posted on 12/26/23 at 9:34 pm to Deplorableinohio
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Do you have the capacity in the service panel? We have a 200 A service and no more room. So need to upgrade the panel. That’s a major electrical upgrade, and expensive
Well yeah it's gonna vary by individual. Some people will have the capacity and physical breaker space without issue and will be a cheap install. Some will have the capacity but not the physical space, may need to change out breakers to slim lines or do a subpanel at a moderate cost, and some will need an expensive full panel and/or service upgrade.
So yeah anyone actually considering getting a EV does need to take this into account before purchasing a EV.
There certainly work arounds and you can charge on a "dryer" outlet. Clearly not as convenient as having a dedicated EV charger outlet or charger.
Posted on 12/26/23 at 9:37 pm to Puffoluffagus
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Some will have the capacity but not the physical space, may need to change out breakers to slim lines or do a subpanel at a moderate cost, and some will need an expensive full panel and/or service upgrade.
You can run a load shedder or load shed equipped panel like a Span as well.
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