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re: OT Parents, thoughts on holding your kids back a grade?

Posted on 2/7/18 at 6:13 pm to
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
20745 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 6:13 pm to
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My son had the same issue... sept birthday. While he did fine in k-5 (course work wise), his discipline and focus was a problem due to immaturity. held him back to take k-5 again and he is a much more mature student. he is having fun and understands the classroom structure much better. He will be 18 when he graduates. I think the older the better.


Same with my son and daughter. Teachers said they were like new kids the years after.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18921 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 6:19 pm to
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My sons birthday is September, and my wife wants to consider him attending Pre-K twice. What say the OT?


My wife is a lazy, no good in the real world, person who bitches about her pay even though she really only works 8-3 for 9 months out of the year, early education teacher. She would highly advise that based on the literature she read to earn her master’s and become “qualified” that you consider holding your kid back.

Also, it’ll give him a big advantage in sports.
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
13138 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 6:21 pm to
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I'm July, my parents didn't hold me back and I finished high school at 17. 


Same here. The only part that sucked was being the last one out of my friends to get my license.
Posted by SECdragonmaster
Order of the Dragons
Member since Dec 2013
17460 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 7:28 pm to
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A very wise teacher gave us this advice: she has never heard one parent say that they regretted holding one back; while she has had scores of parents regret not holding one back.



Biased sample.

Educators vastly prefer that as many kids be held back as possible. Their standardized testing scores improve when compared to other kids who are younger in other schools.

Parents always reflexively hold their kids back in KG but would NEVER EVER consider holding them back in a later grade.

Why?

Social embarrassment.

That should never be a factor in your decision.

As an aside: We have two kids who have very late summer birthdays. Both were told by teachers that we shouldn’t hold them back because of social immaturity.

We said no and continued with school as planned. Daughter is on full academic scholarship in college and son made a 32 on his ACT on the first try last year in 8th grade.

Holding back occurs far too often and it creates a bad dynamic for kids in high school. Your 19 (going on 20) year old seniorboy is going to be on the same hall as a 14 yr old freshman girl. I hope you have a good lawyer when he likely does what boys do.
Posted by RedMustang
Member since Oct 2011
6946 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 7:32 pm to
Definitely home him back.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18921 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 7:49 pm to
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We said no and continued with school as planned. Daughter is on full academic scholarship in college and son made a 32 on his ACT on the first try last year in 8th grade.


Well this isn’t anecdotal at all.
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
70138 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 7:51 pm to
hmmm

i dont know

i mean if hes having a hard time right now socializing and communicating or playing with kids his age and is behind on gross motor skills and things like that, then that may be neccessary otherwise id say no
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
70138 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 7:53 pm to
exactly
Posted by browl
North of BR
Member since Nov 2017
1571 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 7:59 pm to
My middle son was born in August. Started pre-k as he turned 4. He is absolutely fine. My oldest was born in September. We didn't hold him back either. He's fine too.

What do you want to do, stagnate your child? Think about the literal words used to describe what you are talking about. Hold him back. That is exactly what you will do..."hold him back". What kinds of attention and boredom devices will he create while being subjected to another year of pre k? Is that what you want? A kid who knows how to tune out the teacher out of boredom before he hits kindergarten?
Posted by HaveMercy
Member since Dec 2014
3000 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 12:38 am to
Welp, In my simpleton ways, I was hoping that having my girls a year older when they set off in the world would help keep them from winding up like Natalie Holloway. Plus, I get to keep them at home a year longer! They're my babies - why rush things???

Posted by Dick Leverage
In The HizHouse
Member since Nov 2013
9000 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 3:47 am to
M daughter has an August birthday and was the youngest in her 1st grade class. Also the smallest. She struggled last year but started to make noticeable strides the last 2 months of school. We decided to hold her back and she is the top of her class In Reading and math right now and loves school. We dealt with her emotional issue of repeating a grade and spun it into a positive over the summer. It was the best move.
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
Member since Oct 2005
139098 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 4:07 am to
I'm red shirting my son in the 8th grade.
Posted by Theotherpikecounty
pike county
Member since Aug 2014
679 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 6:37 am to
must be a PA parent

Sept birthdays should put you as the oldest in the class in this region
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
41694 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 6:40 am to
I held myself back in college a couple of times. I needed more maturity, more partying, a more time to find the perfect girl. 8 years at LSU really did wonders for my education. I'm cured now, haven't wanted to go back to school since.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
60184 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 7:04 am to
I remember we had this kid we called tardy that we found out had done pre k twice because he was a late bloomer and a little tardy
Posted by jpggpj
Chair
Member since Oct 2005
4044 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 7:22 am to
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Sept birthdays should put you as the oldest in the class in this region


Unless held back in this region you are the youngest. You will be 17 in May when graduating.

Truth is your kid will be fine whether he is or is not held back. My son has a mid Sept. bday. We had the same conversation and decided if he struggled early we would hold him back. Thing is you won't see the need for an extra year of maturity until the later grades and by then in my opinion it is too late to hold back just because. My son ended up fine but there were multiple times in the middle school grades that I am very positive he could have benefitted had we started him a year later. Like I said, you child will more than likely do absolutely fine either way but a year of maturity will never hurt.
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
32331 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 7:25 am to
Is he going to play sports? If so, then do what LM did with his and hold the kid back
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 7:43 am to
My son is late September. I actually don't think we have a choice where we are. He misses the cut off and will have to be the oldest in his class. Not 100% sure on that though. We had looked into it a while back.

In any case, we are thinking of moving soon to put him in a very good public school system. Not that ours is bad, but this one is better and we could literally move 1 mile and be in that district. We might just send him to a private school that will take him early for one year while we move. Cheaper than daycare, he gets started early, and then moves over to the public school to really start kindergarten where he'll have matured and have a head start. Haven't really thought that out much though, so not sure what bad things can come of it.
Posted by MarcusQuinn
Member since Aug 2005
582 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 7:45 am to
My son has a slightly later birthday than yours. He was right on the cusp and we wanted to start him in kindergarten with his “same age” cousins and neighbors. He started a school year later than them. He’s probably the oldest kid in his class and has thrived. Crushing it academically in HS.

That being said, that’s my kid. The number of self-righteous, know-it-all’s on here is mind boggling. I’d suggest you ask teachers, other close parents, family members and people who are experts and/or actually know the kid. Make a choice and don’t look back. An earlier decision on this is probably better. It’s a huge deal today, but one of a million or so that will come and go. Good luck.
Posted by Eightballjacket
Member since Jan 2016
8099 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 7:46 am to
You'll have to move if you hold him back, especially if you live in a small town. Otherwise he'll be known as the kid who couldn't pass k4.
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