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re: OT Parents, thoughts on holding your kids back a grade?

Posted on 2/7/18 at 3:30 pm to
Posted by TU Rob
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 2/7/18 at 3:30 pm to
We're thinking of doing this with our son. Our daughter has a winter birthday, so no big deal. But my son's is in the summer, so he will turn 5 this year and start K5 in the fall. We'll see how the year goes, and will probably let him repeat K5. We were thinking of doing a K4 program for a year then starting him at K5, but it makes more sense to see how he does at K5 and decide from there.
Posted by 79
Welp...
Member since Aug 2013
1050 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 3:30 pm to
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Good strategy except for the social aspect of it. A 5th grader getting held back would get made fun of by his old classmates. A 1st, 2nd, or 3rd grader would be less so because those kids don't care. I kinda think 3rd or 4th grade should be last point to hold a kid back strictly because of age.


You could have a point. I just find it hard when he's doing so well in all of the subjects. Maybe this could be an opportunity to consider the hold back and push for gifted classes to keep his focus and attention on the material he's already "mastered".

This topic comes up every 4th quarter with the wife (no pics). I'm sure this year won't be any different
Posted by cj35
Member since Jan 2014
6153 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 3:33 pm to
Do your son a favor and kill yourself now.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 2/7/18 at 3:34 pm to
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A 5th grader getting held back would get made fun of by his old classmates.


You punch the first one who cracks a joke square in the nose.
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
41694 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 3:37 pm to
We did 2 years of K with my son, he's still getting in trouble and struggling scholastically.

I'd either address the problems or keep the year of holding him back due to age in your back pocket.
Posted by LCA131
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Posted on 2/7/18 at 3:41 pm to
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My son... he's still... struggling scholastically.


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Gaston


Paternity confirmed.
Posted by PoppaD
Texas
Member since Feb 2008
5376 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 3:41 pm to
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You could have a point. I just find it hard when he's doing so well in all of the subjects. Maybe this could be an opportunity to consider the hold back and push for gifted classes to keep his focus and attention on the material he's already "mastered".


Your his parent and you know him the best. I completely agree if he is mature enough and excelling at the work there is no reason to hold him back.

My only point was if you have any doubt and think he would benefit from a hold back year then do it before he gets older. Kids do reach a point socially that they wont want to be held back.

My boy is a July birthday and in 1st grade. He is struggling some so I have no doubt that he needs to hold back and repeat 1st. Each kid is different

Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
23216 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 3:43 pm to
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I held mine back in pre k August birthday Could come up with plenty of pros and no cons


This. Anyone with a summer birthday should strongly consider.
Posted by Cocotheape
Member since Aug 2015
4242 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 3:45 pm to
In kindergarten I think holding back is a great way to deal with maturity issues.

Anything after 1st grade? Research shows retention doesn't work (doesn't improve academic outcomes). Obviously some kids there is no choice, they are so far behind and the school will insist, but it's probably not going to fix anything.
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9666 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 4:03 pm to
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I gradated HS at 17 and had no problems


I turned 18 at the end of Sept my first semester of college. My youngest sister didn't have her 18th birthday until end of December her freshman year. I don't remember having any problems.

I've got 3 Yankee nephews. Their mother has a January birthday, so she made 18 her senior year of high school. She's got her boys taking a "gap" year after 8th grade and before going to high school. It's kind of an independent study thing. It's bullshite as far as I can tell. Her oldest boy is going to be 17 in a few weeks and is only a sophomore in high school. Assuming he doesn't get held back in high school, he'll turn 20 in his 2nd semester of college. Seems retarded to me, but apparently "everybody" does it in the Northeast.
Posted by djangochained
Gardere
Member since Jul 2013
19185 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 4:19 pm to
Why would that be a favor? Don’t speak about my son like that
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
12959 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 4:22 pm to
If you want him to play college ball he needs to be held back.








If you want him to jump straight to the pros, you want him finishing school young.
Posted by gingerkittie
Member since Aug 2013
2675 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 4:24 pm to
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The frick?

It would suck dick to start your senior year in high school at 16 IMHO



I graduated at 16 and it was just fine. Actually quite awesome, in fact. It's all up to the individual kid. I was motivated to get the frick out of HS so I took LSU correspondence courses to make that happen.
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
83170 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 4:30 pm to
The cutoff was October 31 when I was young, and my birthday is mid October. My parents didn’t even consider holding me back because I was not struggling at all in school. I can’t say I wish they did, but I’ll admit it was a pain in high school and my first year of college.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 2/7/18 at 4:58 pm to
I have three kids, one 20, one 8 one 6.

All went to an academic magnet school. But we wanted my youngest boy to do prek twice then enroll K at 6 because he has a Sept birthday.

We were told no way would that be allowed. We must put him in K based on his age on Sept 30. We could assess him at the end of the year and see if we thought he needed held back then. Our problem with it being an academic magnet is that if he wasnt in the appropriate grade it would make it hard for him to attend the same school as his brother. We fought and fought because we thought this was an asinine concept.

I came down to money it seems, we were told that K is a federally funded program, and that no funds would be received for a child whose age fell outside the range.

That may have been bullshite. We started him, he did well and so far we dont have any concerns. I was a September baby as well who graduated at 17 and it never bothered me.

Just thought I would throw my experience out there.
Posted by Averytiger
Member since Dec 2017
1366 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 5:09 pm to
It definitely helps. Every year of maturity helps with time management, focus, and comprehension in class.

On the other hand, 19-20 year old seniors are creepy in class. Let's not skip too many years.
Posted by gingerkittie
Member since Aug 2013
2675 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 5:23 pm to
I taught Pre-K, Kindergarten and elem school so this is my opinion based upon those experiences. Yes, it is long but I have thought it out.

Unless there is really a compelling reason to hold your child back - don't do it. It is a tactic that you should only use ONCE so choose wisely. Using it so early impacts the rest of the school years after. They no longer have that "wiggle room" if they encounter difficulties in later grades.

Pre-K is mostly socialization and play. It's really just a program to ensure that disadvantaged kids get the proper skills for socialization, behavior and skills to be ready to step up to the real grades. A child from a normal functioning family environment doesn't even need it Pre-K but they benefit form the socialization and learning environment.

By holding your son back you are starting off his schooling with a set back. He will always be behind the peers of his age by one year.

So what do you do if in the future your child has academic issues again? (Either learning issues, medical, etc, whatever). If you put them back again then they are TWO years behind their age peers.

I also know how it affects kids. It embarrasses them when discussing age with other kids. Some kids felt forever stigmatized by it. They always had to explain WHY they were a year older than their classmates.

Your lil boy should be fine and go on with his class. he has likely made friends in his class and holding him back makes him have to find a whole new group of friends once again.
This post was edited on 2/7/18 at 5:24 pm
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
32409 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 5:56 pm to
I'm July, my parents didn't hold me back and I finished high school at 17.

Went to college at 18 (technically 17, summer classes ahead of time)
Posted by Chris4x4gill2
North Alabama
Member since Nov 2008
3119 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 6:01 pm to
My son's bday is in August. We talked to his potential teachers and others and decided to start him a year later. I am happy with the choice. I graduated HS at 17 myself but why rush them? Only one chance to be a kid.
Posted by RandySavage
9 Time Natty Winner
Member since May 2012
35823 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 6:09 pm to
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My sons birthday is September


That's the perfect month, they'll already be the oldest. No way you should hold them back unless they have problems.
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