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OT lawyers... Any clients told you not to work on their cases?

Posted on 4/6/20 at 8:55 am
Posted by Slippy
Across the rivah
Member since Aug 2005
6584 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 8:55 am
This is happening a lot. Transactional practices are hit harder than litigation. But it is starting to happen with litigation. With court shutdowns and suspension of deadlines, an increasing number of clients (more self insured corporations than insurance companies) are telling their lawyers not to bill them during the quarantine.

It’s not that easy. What do you do if you have a June trial date that is still on the calendar? Just stop preparing? One insurer told me they only want me doing “essential” work, but didn’t bother to define what that means. So I’m working.

We are going to keep our 35 employees employed come hell or high water.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
35349 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 8:59 am to
A few sections of the firm are mostly shutdown. A couple sections are busier than ever.


Once this ends we'll probably need to hire a couple more lawyers and a few more staff to handle the influx of matters.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 4/6/20 at 8:59 am to
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Posted by SVGSZN4408
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2017
109 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 8:59 am to
Yup. Either try to settle it now or put in on the shelf.

No depositions to prep for, no motions to attend. We've played catch-up and are now looking for things to do. Also, do not necessarily want to do work that client's may not be able to pay for if they go under.

No bonuses this year.
This post was edited on 4/6/20 at 9:01 am
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
9609 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 9:01 am to
My brother is staying very busy in Washington DC handling patent cases.
Posted by yankeeundercover
Buffalo, NY
Member since Jan 2010
36373 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 9:01 am to
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What do you do if you have a June trial date that is still on the calendar?
Solid point.

Can’t a lawyer on either side file an indefinite continuance on the grounds of preparation and due diligence being stymied by the pandemic or something?

If not a thing, then it’s a case by case (don’t know if pun intended?) and if the client says “stop”, and they’re unprepared and lose, its on the client.

Granted, it will look poorly in the defense firm’s/attorney’s record.

Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 4/6/20 at 9:02 am to
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No bonuses this year.

Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28193 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 9:04 am to
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Seismic events like this always trigger rate cuts in the defense industry, "we will do comp defense for 50 dollars an hour" is how it will start.



If you think an expensive lawyer costs you too much money, wait until you hire a cheap one.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112677 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 9:06 am to
Why aren’t y’all using Zoom? Seems like we’re having most, if not all opposing counsel, agreeable to Zoom depositions.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79235 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 9:10 am to
Has the trial been pushed previously?

If it's the first trial calendar, at least in my experience, there's a 95% chance it's not gonna go even under normal circumstances. 99% now.

But I'd just document the shite out of it for the client and let them make the call. From their POV it's probably a fair gamble. They know it's not going to happen and they don't want you prepping twice.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Member since Feb 2012
79235 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 9:11 am to
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Why aren’t y’all using Zoom? Seems like we’re having most, if not all opposing counsel, agreeable to Zoom depositions.



I'm happy to defend via zoom

I'm not taking via Zoom unless it's forced
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422644 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 9:14 am to
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What do you do if you have a June trial date that is still on the calendar?

i had one set in mid-May and contacted opposing counsel once the LASC shut things down on 3/22 to get her to agree to pass b/c of deadline issues that were now on the horizon. i don't know why your client wouldn't want to do something similar if they don't want you to bill right now

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One insurer told me they only want me doing “essential” work, but didn’t bother to define what that means. So I’m working.

yeah i don't envy you

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We are going to keep our 35 employees employed come hell or high water.

don't envy you here, either
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101474 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 9:15 am to
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What do you do if you have a June trial date


You don't probably.
Posted by TigerGman
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Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 4/6/20 at 9:17 am to
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This post was edited on 4/6/20 at 10:02 am
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
17960 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 9:18 am to
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Can’t a lawyer on either side file an indefinite continuance on the grounds of preparation and due diligence being stymied by the pandemic or something?

Nope. You have the right to a speedy trial. If the state is the cause of delay and it has been 180 days, congrats on the freedom.
Posted by yankeeundercover
Buffalo, NY
Member since Jan 2010
36373 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 9:29 am to
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You have the right to a speedy trial.
Does this apply to both the plaintiff and the defense?
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101474 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 9:30 am to
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quote:
You have the right to a speedy trial.

Does this apply to both the plaintiff and the defense?


It applies to people accused of a CRIME.

That's not most of what is being discussed here.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81654 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 9:32 am to
My four clients are killing us with assignments. Still having initial conferences. Still getting calls and emails for statuses. Even though most of these people are working from home, it feels like business as usual on my end.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112677 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 9:32 am to
That was our stance a week ago. Who knows how long this will last, though.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80272 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 9:46 am to
Strangely enough, my clients are pretty understanding that everything has kinda shut down and things are moving slower.

I’m using it as time to catch up on a ton of stuff.
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