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Oregon just re-criminalized drug possession and use

Posted on 4/5/24 at 8:27 am
Posted by tsmi136
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Posted on 4/5/24 at 8:27 am
I, for one, am SHOCKED
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Ovalle said a growing public perception of disorder also contributed to drug decriminalization's failure.

This might be unpopular opinion, but so it turns out, doing whatever you want, isn't best for society. I'm convinced that self-control is necessary for society and I don't think de-criminalization of these hard drugs encourages it.
This post was edited on 4/5/24 at 8:28 am
Posted by bradygolf98
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Posted on 4/5/24 at 8:31 am to
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doing whatever you want, isn't best for society

Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
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Posted on 4/5/24 at 8:32 am to
Now they just need to burn the homeless encampments to the ground and ship all of the druggie transients to a remote island
Posted by tsmi136
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 4/5/24 at 8:32 am to
Canada around Vancouver has a lot of those. Though I would hate to ruin the nature up there.
Posted by Clames
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Posted on 4/5/24 at 8:38 am to
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The Drug Enforcement Administration issued a warning in August 2022 that "rainbow fentanyl" had been ceased in 26 states. 


Probably $750,000 worth of journalism degrees behind this article too.
Posted by Celery
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Posted on 4/5/24 at 8:38 am to
Tried and failed. Oregon took one for the team.
Posted by ctiger69
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Posted on 4/5/24 at 8:39 am to
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ship all of the druggie transients to a remote island


Ship them to Washington DC or NYC.
Posted by PeteRose
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Posted on 4/5/24 at 8:44 am to
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but so it turns out, doing whatever you want, isn't best for society.



Of course. We all need some sort of restrictions. Look at the US population and food whenever we eat whatever we want. 2/3 of population is obese and puts a strain on the health care system. Of course some OTer will bring up that this is not right and we need freedom to whatever we want. People in general have discipline of a 5 year old and imagine giving them magic buttons 24/7 . Yes, you need some freedom but you have to throw in some restrictions too make a functioning society.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 4/5/24 at 8:46 am to
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Probably $750,000 worth of journalism degrees behind this article too.



3 people cited for that Article. All 3 have pronouns in bios.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 4/5/24 at 8:47 am to
Good
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 4/5/24 at 8:49 am to
Seems like they fell into the bureaucratic red tape when trying to distribute funds for treatment facilities and the like.

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"Oregon took a long time to kind of figure out how to go about giving out that money," Ovalle said. "So, there was a lot of delays and actually getting the money out the door. In the meantime, a lot of the use of fentanyl was skyrocketing on the West Coast."


That’s unfortunate. Utilizing their THC sales to create more facilities for treatment of a range of substances should be a given even re-criminalizing harder stuff.

Also unfortunate that we lose an opportunity to utilize Psilocybin for wider spread research if recriminalized. They were making good headway there.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 4/5/24 at 8:52 am to
the fact that hardcore libertarians/"legalize everything" types still exist after the past 5 or so years is hilarious
Posted by S
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Posted on 4/5/24 at 9:06 am to
What about for tPots
Posted by OldmanBeasley
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Posted on 4/5/24 at 9:08 am to
Good. My cousin suffered from Reefer madness. It was a terrible ordeal for the family. He became the Reefer.
Posted by SidetrackSilvera
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Posted on 4/5/24 at 9:12 am to
If only we'd seen this coming.
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 4/5/24 at 9:13 am to
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the fact that hardcore libertarians/"legalize everything" types still exist after the past 5 or so years is hilarious



I was softly on the "maybe we should decriminalize, prohibition isn't working" years ago.

After going to SF, and seeing what has happened in Oregon...nah.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/5/24 at 9:18 am to
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the fact that hardcore libertarians/"legalize everything" types still exist after the past 5 or so years is hilarious

The question always turns to why America is an outlier with respect to having such a large pathological cohort within its total population.

This applies to basically all areas of life.

The scary part is that it's likely that socialism (not conservativism) is why these countries are able to implement these policies. It raises a lot of questions as to how we deal with all of this moving forward (note: I'm not implying we need to promote socialism, for the smoothbrains).
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
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Posted on 4/5/24 at 9:21 am to
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Ship them to Washington DC or NYC.


Ship them to every country receiving foreign aid. Say, for every $10million you get, you have to take 100 homeless.

Ukraine could get enough cannon fodder alone to last a year of combat.
Posted by OweO
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Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 4/5/24 at 9:27 am to
So is the goal to stop people from using illegal drugs? Because that's not going to happen.

Honestly, I think drugs like heroin, cocaine, and several others should be sold legally. Since people are going to do it no matter what, at least let sell them a product they know what they are getting.

I am just curious if privatized prisons have any part of this. They want as many prisoners as possible, that's how they make money. Im just thinking.. because its politics.. Things are usually done because someone is gaining from it.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 4/5/24 at 9:29 am to
quote:

I was softly on the "maybe we should decriminalize, prohibition isn't working" years ago.

me too. also i was like 19 when i felt this way so i'll use that as an excuse.
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