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re: Oregon just re-criminalized drug possession and use
Posted on 4/5/24 at 6:44 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
Posted on 4/5/24 at 6:44 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
Portland just hit 50 x worse. If you can even imagine that.
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Posted on 4/5/24 at 6:45 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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I’ve posted that in about 20 different threads.
There’s junkies out there who have been saved by Narcan a half-dozen time. Sometimes more.
For what?
When it's your son, daughter, brother, sister, mom, dad, etc you'll feel differently than they deserve to die. And don't pretend it would never happen to your family. Addiction doesn't care who you are or where you're from or what race or socioeconomic status you are. Equal opportunity disease with lethal outcomes.
Posted on 4/5/24 at 7:14 pm to DavidTheGnome
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And don't pretend it would never happen to your family
My brother is a heroin addict. One of his trashy friends had to get Narcan from EMS in front of my mother. Saved his shitty life.
We are talking about 40 year olds.
Posted on 4/5/24 at 7:17 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
I remember are the people saying how this was a good idea back when it happened. Hopefully common sense goes back in style and we enforce brutal sentencing on drug deslers and suppliers of these horrific drugs that ruin not only the lives of the users, but of many of the family members.
Posted on 4/5/24 at 7:19 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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My brother is a heroin addict. One of his trashy friends had to get Narcan from EMS in front of my mother. Saved his shitty life. We are talking about 40 year olds.
If I had a son.
-Dementia Joe
Posted on 4/5/24 at 7:19 pm to tsmi136
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This might be unpopular opinion, but so it turns out, doing whatever you want, isn't best for society. I'm convinced that self-control is necessary for society and I don't think de-criminalization of these hard drugs encourages it.
All true, but if you're at the point where you have to go all jackboot on people to stop them from drug induced stupors, you've already lost.
Society at large needs to choose to avoid this crap. Sure you'll always have deadheads, but that can't be a sizable portion of your population.
Posted on 4/5/24 at 7:20 pm to diat150
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Hopefully common sense goes back in style and we enforce brutal sentencing on drug deslers and suppliers of these horrific drugs
Prohibition didn’t work for alcohol, hasn’t worked for guns and has been a failure for drugs. But sure, it’ll work this time.
Posted on 4/5/24 at 7:21 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
What countries have no issues with hard drugs and how do they deal with it?
Posted on 4/5/24 at 7:30 pm to bad93ex
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What countries have no issues with hard drugs
This isn’t possible and I never even hinted it was. That’s not a realistic goal.
But people are going to do drugs. There are going to be addicts.
But much of the problem is created due to an artificial black market caused by government prohibition. This causes violence between dealers/gangs and criminal behavior by the addicts to feed their addiction.
In reality, the drugs are extremely cheap. Oxy pills cost pennies to make.
No one is committing theft and violence for alcohol, because it’s readily available and cheap. There are plenty of alcoholics, but they are kept mostly in check.
Posted on 4/5/24 at 7:32 pm to tsmi136
Amazing. You mean big L "libertarians" are stupid?
Posted on 4/5/24 at 7:35 pm to DavidTheGnome
Why should taxpayers foot the bill -at all- for someone's poor choice to use drugs? I am for legalizing everything, but not one red cent should go to help these idiots. You're an adult, live with the consequences.
Posted on 4/5/24 at 7:40 pm to DavidTheGnome
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When it's your son, daughter, brother, sister, mom, dad, etc you'll feel differently than they deserve to die. And don't pretend it would never happen to your family. Addiction doesn't care who you are or where you're from or what race or socioeconomic status you are. Equal opportunity disease with lethal outcomes.
That person who was a family member of yours is gone.
What is left is a meat puppet piloted by a demon.
That monster wearing your loved one's visage will spread pain, disappointment, and woe to all in their path.
If I ever become such a zombie I'd hope someone would put me out of my fricking misery.
Posted on 4/5/24 at 7:42 pm to bad93ex
I had a meeting for work in Portland a couple weeks ago. It was pretty dang sad. There was not a place we went or street we drove on that did not have a homeless person or some tent commune.
Talking to some in our meeting that live there, they said the amount of people that moved there once drugs were legalized were staggering. Said the overdose fatalities got to a point where the news stopped talking about it. They were saying how the city has to wash the sidewalks several times a week because of people crapping or puking. Sure, enough the morning we left they were washing them down.
Almost all of our customers that work there are looking to transfer out. It is really sad that a place that is so beautiful to be so crappy.
Talking to some in our meeting that live there, they said the amount of people that moved there once drugs were legalized were staggering. Said the overdose fatalities got to a point where the news stopped talking about it. They were saying how the city has to wash the sidewalks several times a week because of people crapping or puking. Sure, enough the morning we left they were washing them down.
Almost all of our customers that work there are looking to transfer out. It is really sad that a place that is so beautiful to be so crappy.
Posted on 4/5/24 at 7:44 pm to tsmi136
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This post was edited on 4/19/24 at 5:00 pm
Posted on 4/5/24 at 7:45 pm to tsmi136
Unfortunate. Narcan should be a one and done. You get one dose. If you frick around again then you’re cooked.
Posted on 4/5/24 at 7:50 pm to tilco
Also lumping psychedelics in with heroin and opiates is stupid as frick.
Posted on 4/5/24 at 8:46 pm to tsmi136
Big loss for the "Live and let live" folks.
Posted on 4/5/24 at 9:06 pm to Roman Candle Tag
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That person who was a family member of yours is gone.
What is left is a meat puppet piloted by a demon.
That monster wearing your loved one's visage will spread pain, disappointment, and woe to all in their path.
If I ever become such a zombie I'd hope someone would put me out of my fricking misery.
And yet (I know it might be shocking) people can and do recover.
Posted on 4/5/24 at 9:07 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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Why should taxpayers foot the bill -at all- for someone's poor choice to use drugs? I am for legalizing everything, but not one red cent should go to help these idiots. You're an adult, live with the consequences.
You already do, it’s called jail.
Posted on 4/5/24 at 9:09 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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My brother is a heroin addict. One of his trashy friends had to get Narcan from EMS in front of my mother. Saved his shitty life.
We are talking about 40 year olds.
Sounds like me
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