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re: OLOL suspends in patient non emergency procedures for 2 weeks to make room for covid beds

Posted on 7/22/20 at 9:03 pm to
Posted by PetroBabich
Donetsk Oblast
Member since Apr 2017
5177 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 9:03 pm to
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It’s bizarre to me how it affects certain people who are otherwise young and healthy.


But are they fat?
Posted by tigerbandpiccolo
Member since Oct 2005
49482 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 9:07 pm to
That’s correct. Older one is still stable but will be on ECMO for next couple weeks.
This post was edited on 7/22/20 at 9:08 pm
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
32130 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 9:08 pm to
I think I've known like 2 people who have had Covid during this entire ordeal and both recovered quickly.

In my dealings with customers, vendors and co-workers, I never hear of anyone of them or anyone they know that's had it when we discuss it.
Posted by LoneStar23
USA
Member since Aug 2019
5837 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 9:08 pm to
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Please stop the lie that your work in medicine

I can vouch that waydownsouth works in medicine
Posted by LSUJML
Central
Member since May 2008
56855 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 9:09 pm to
I know a girl, healthy, no issues at all
Got a “cold”
Treated with OTC meds, she had strep & was septic
Got her to ER, coded twice
Pulled through, had to do dialysis, slowly got better
Fine now although I’m sure there’s some damage go her organs

There’s always going to be the healthy person that for whatever reason their body couldn’t fight the virus or strep or the flu or pneumonia
Healthy doesn’t mean you can’t get sick


Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
40277 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 9:15 pm to
So for example, my dad had a stress test that led to an angiogram that lead to a pretty emergent bypass -- there was no "go home" and then come back.

Would he have even qualified for the angiogram under this circumstance??
Posted by ashy larry
Marcy Projects
Member since Mar 2010
5582 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 9:16 pm to
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The majority in fact are. I’ve come across maybe 4 In the last month that had a normal
BMI.



Few people these days have a ‘normal’ BMI. Probably 40% are considered obese. LDH site says 19.84% of the deaths were obese.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
31240 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 9:17 pm to
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serious question. Are these people in the hospital ONLY due to covid or are they in for something else and get tested and come up positive? Then those get added to the hospitalization numbers.


That census is for patients that are on a COVID intervention unit. Where their COVID related symptoms are significant enough for BiPAP/Vapotherm or vents or recovering past that point. Non-symptomatic COVID + patients that are there for say a potential cardiac event are grouped in more of a med-surg unit but they are separated from the other cardiac patients that are COVID -, there is likely a separate census for that but it isn't the one I related. The hospital would charge extra for those COVID patients even if non-symtomatic because their care takes longer and uses extra PPE.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12866 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 9:19 pm to
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They simply don't have enough ICU nurses.

Can confirm that at least one BR area hospital went from trying to roll out a “bring your own mask” policy to offering $30/hr incentive pay for ICU nurses within a span of 2-3 weeks.

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Non-symptomatic COVID + patients that are there for say a potential cardiac event are grouped in more of a med-surg unit but they are separated from the other cardiac patients that are COVID -, there is likely a separate census for that but it isn't the one I related.

Wouldn’t critical care patients still wind up in the COVID ICU though? I can’t imagine OLOL is putting COVID-positive ICU patients without COVID symptoms on the floor, nor can I imagine they are sending COVID-positive patients to (for example) the normal cardiac ICU.
This post was edited on 7/22/20 at 9:26 pm
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
31240 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 9:21 pm to
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So for example, my dad had a stress test that led to an angiogram that lead to a pretty emergent bypass -- there was no "go home" and then come back.

Would he have even qualified for the angiogram under this circumstance??


Yes. The stress test was outpatient, then the angio moved into the necessary range but also outpatient and the CABG was emergent. PACUs and med-surg units are still operational but limited to non-elective procedures.
Posted by NastyTiger
Hammond/Baton Rouge/Lafayette
Member since Jun 2005
11271 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 9:23 pm to
O Lol
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
31240 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 9:34 pm to
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Wouldn’t critical care patients still wind up in the COVID ICU though? I can’t imagine OLOL is putting COVID-positive ICU patients without COVID symptoms on the floor, nor can I imagine they are sending COVID-positive patients to (for example) the normal cardiac ICU.


Yes and no and it is a bit of semantics and I admit I am not 100% clear on. The COVID + patients are not mixed with COVID - patients obviously but the patients in the "COVID ICU" require intervention for COVID. Neuro and Cardiac ICUs have to be bifurcated but the nurses on those units are ones that normally attend Neuro and Cardiac critical care and while they have to use COVID protocol they don't have to treat COVID beyond meds. In the end it is a huge shift in logistics and many of the med-surg floors have been closed.
Posted by El Segundo Guy
1-866-DHS-2-ICE
Member since Aug 2014
11752 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 9:45 pm to
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Can confirm that at least one BR area hospital went from trying to roll out a “bring your own mask” policy to offering $30/hr incentive pay for ICU nurses within a span of 2-3 weeks.


My wife went to a hospital out of state to work China flu patients as an ICU nurse. Tonight is her first shift. This is her 2and China flu travel assignment.

She will be making a frick ton of money. 6 12 hour night shifts in a row.
Posted by Privateer 2007
Member since Jan 2020
7951 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 9:45 pm to
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Grats fat boys. ...so unhealthy..... hitting gym and eating decent too hard


I think this take is too harsh.

But, those criticizing it need to look at the data.

The vast majority of those getting rocked by this are in terrible physical condition.

Pretending that's not the case is just BS.
Posted by Privateer 2007
Member since Jan 2020
7951 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 9:46 pm to
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nurses to tend to patients


They've had 4 months to cross train.
That's a bullshite excuse.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
75988 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 9:47 pm to
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Please stop the lie that your work in medicine.


I’m enjoying your long slow self melt these past weeks
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12866 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 10:04 pm to
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They've had 4 months to cross train.
That's a bullshite excuse.

ICU nurses are a bit of a different breed compared to many other nursing roles at a hospital. I’m generalizing here, but they tend to be more analytical personalities and/or habitual overachievers. Many of them originally planned to go to medical school, become CRNA’s, or get some other type of advanced degree. Hell, many of them are actively pursuing advanced degrees.

There are nurses who go straight to the ICU out of school, but that’s the point - they are able to do this because they are smart, not because they simply “learned ICU” during clinicals.

It’s harsh to say this, but there are a lot of dumb nurses out there. There aren’t a lot of dumb ICU nurses out there, though. The hard part isn’t the cross training. It’s trying to convert someone into a critical care nurse when they don’t really belong in that field. Again, I’m generalizing and I’m sure someone will be offended. But it is what it is.
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
26363 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 10:06 pm to
Don’t care. Not wearing a mask
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
106160 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 10:12 pm to
Hoax
Posted by Privateer 2007
Member since Jan 2020
7951 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 10:15 pm to
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there are a lot of dumb nurses


My mom is an ER NP on the side , and teaches nursing full time.

Her schools board passage rate is better than about 80% of schools. So a good school.

Many of her students that graduate are extremely dumb.
Like mind blowing, the shite they do.
This post was edited on 7/22/20 at 10:16 pm
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