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re: Oceans absorbing almost all of the globe's excess heat

Posted on 9/12/16 at 3:16 pm to
Posted by Barrister
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 9/12/16 at 3:16 pm to
As a Scuba Diver that hates anything more than 3mm of rubber on me, I can support this
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 9/12/16 at 3:17 pm to
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with jellyfish being one of the only ones affected in a positive way.


There's plenty of terrestrial plant and animal life that would be positively affected by higher temperatures. I find it hard to believe that jellyfish would be the only marine life to find it a positive.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
46419 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 3:18 pm to
Just tell me how big a check you need to fix this issue...
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 3:20 pm to
The OT at large

Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31591 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 3:20 pm to
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No significant difference. The world's major currents are predominantly wind driven.

Do you even Coriolis bro?


Surface currents are primarily wind driven, but that is very little of all of the ocean's currents.

Do you even thermohaline circulation bro?
This post was edited on 9/12/16 at 3:22 pm
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17753 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 3:20 pm to
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There's plenty of terrestrial plant and animal life that would be positively affected by higher temperatures


The question that I would like answered is how will climate change shift rainfall patterns? Is the California drought a fluke or part of a new normal?
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15979 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 3:21 pm to
So what temp is the water on the map for the world to look like it's on fire?
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 3:22 pm to
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I can't believe so many of these morons don't believe in global warming. You idiots should be embarrassed.


I can, because the issue has been politicized which means it is framed in a way to maximize votes and tax dollars, "Capitalists are raping the planet vs. Commies are trying to destroy legit businesses." If it were framed in a way to try and seek a solution it'd be more like "Close to half of us live near coastal areas, rising temperatures and sea levels pose a significant threat to our way of life, maybe we should see if we can do something to mitigate the risks."
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24279 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 3:24 pm to
Easy fix.

Get the anti-science liberals to support nuclear electricity generation and as we move to electric cars, problem solved.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31591 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 3:24 pm to
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I can, because the issue has been politicized which means it is framed in a way to maximize votes and tax dollars, "Capitalists are raping the planet vs. Commies are trying to destroy legit businesses." If it were framed in a way to try and seek a solution it'd be more like "Close to half of us live near coastal areas, rising temperatures and sea levels pose a significant threat to our way of life, maybe we should see if we can do something to mitigate the risks."



There's plenty that frame it that way. Quit listening to politicians.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31591 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 3:26 pm to
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Get the anti-science liberals to support nuclear electricity generation and as we move to electric cars, problem solved.



I'm all for it, and for God's sake open Yucca Mountain.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
41812 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 3:29 pm to
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The question that I would like answered is how will climate change shift rainfall patterns? Is the California drought a fluke or part of a new normal?


From what I can tell, they use to actually be much worse.

Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
Member since Jan 2010
23170 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 3:34 pm to
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Can't say that I have an answer but denying the problem is absurd. The rapid rise in global temperatures coincide with mankind's release of greenhouse gasses. I guess I'd start there.



OK. Suburbia is giving mother earth a fever. Now what? Which of the following do you think is more likely:

Scenario A: A majority of Americans come to believe in AGW, elect representatives who share those views, craft legislation that will adequately address the problem over the next century, tax themselves to pay for it, developing nations halt their economic growth to follow our example, and finally the polar bears get to relax.

or...

Scenario B: We allow our government to tax us for our carbon output , thereby encouraging them to see nearly every single transaction in the modern world as a revenue generator. A new tax is slapped onto your movements, the food you eat, the products you purchase, the garbage you dispose of, and anything else that puts more net carbon into the atmosphere (i.e., everything).

Does anyone seriously believe that our democratic republic is capable of electing entire legislatures full of representatives who will 1) be competent enough to address the issue and 2) virtuous enough not to abuse the power?

Isn't it more likely that we will learn to adapt?

Before scolding the rest of us about how to save the planet, maybe step back and confirm which planet you are actually living on.
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
13055 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 3:37 pm to
That's impossible. That would make the argument of climate change being human-induced a fallacy. No way humans were causing the earth to warm abnormally, and multiple times over a 500 year period. Especially when the most significant source of greenhouse gas was the family cow.
This post was edited on 9/12/16 at 3:39 pm
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31591 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 3:39 pm to
Human nature is going to be our downfall. Got it.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
17833 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 3:40 pm to
Just being difficult. Thought you were mainly referencing the surface currents.

It is an interesting concept though. The temperature difference between the surface and deep water will increase but the salinity difference will decrease as the poles get fresher and the tropics get saltier.
Posted by CrazyCow202
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2016
266 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 3:49 pm to
Yeah you're right...98% of the world's scientists aren't rational.
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
23313 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 3:56 pm to
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Get the anti-science liberals to support nuclear electricity generation and as we move to electric cars, problem solved.




The Bellefonte Nuclear Plant in north Alabama is for sale. Initial bids are due today. Anyone want to go in with me?
Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
Member since Jan 2010
23170 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 3:59 pm to
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Human nature is going to be our downfall. Got it.



Well, what are your side's proposals? Are we going to roll up the Constitution and smoke it so that we can have a fascist government that will force the people to take the right climate steps?

Your side is full of stereotypical liberal handwringing garbage. It's sophomoric, which is ironic considering all of the "dumb climate denier" bleating heard even in this thread.

Anyone? Anyone have a realistic solution to a centuries long problem that our government can fix without derailing the world economy? Does anyone believe this is actually a problem that an elected American government can solve?
This post was edited on 9/12/16 at 4:00 pm
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53589 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 4:03 pm to
Here is the reason why I don't buy into the GW stuff: they make absurd claims to fit the prevailing narrative.

I remember being bombarded in class and in kid science mags growing up in the 90s that if we aren't careful, our CO2 emissions could trigger a runaway greenhouse effect that could leave us like Venus.


Then I guess the Internet came around and people found out in the not too distant past atmospheric CO2 levels were 5-7 times current so that angle of fear mongering had to be curbed.


So if the oceans are retarding us from being able to measure the effects of GW, exactly how long ago is the GW we are experiencing?


And has someone told Al Gore that he will have to change his graphs focused on the correlation of CO2 and temperature.
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