re: Obesity rates coming down

1.6% isn't exactly plummeting.

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Can this help Health Insurance Rates?

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Eventually it will lower the costs of healthcare and health insurance. Unfortunately the costs will already be way to damn high when the lowering happens.

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exactly. These same people are exhausting. They bitch about fatties. Then when they finally get some news that the fatties are declining they still bitch cause muh GLP1s. Who gives a shite?

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Trading one pharmaceutical for another will NEVER be the answer. It’s as simple as that to me. Has nothing to do with “cheating” or whatever, who gives a shite.

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By that logic we shouldn't allow any blood pressure meds or implant any stints, because cardiovascular problems should be addressed through diet and exercise only.

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I’m not totally against it

as long as they can't get jacked without working out. If they ever come up with that one I'll really be mad.

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how does it affect you? if trading 1 for another and cost is a wash...why do you care?

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Because if they lost weight and became metabolically healthy with no pharmaceuticals prices would go down, not stay stagnant.

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hell its estimated only 50-55% are even using insurance

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For now. If you don’t think these companies will just pull the rug up and not only replace any lost profits but increase it once they have people properly reliant on these you’ve been asleep for the last 30 years.

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you say you dont care about it being "cheating" but even when it absolutely has zero affect negatively on anything and I mean anything that could affect you

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It affects every single one of us negatively… in a lot of ways. Financially, national security, emotionally, etc. An unhealthy society is a dying society. And being reliant on these drugs as scale is an unhealthy society. That’s not debatable.

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not how that works

now if you go back to eating in a caloric surplus...sure

but why do you care?

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You're being obtuse.

People who couldn't control their eating before the shot lose even more control coming off it.

Life long shot. With whatever consequences that entails.

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Because if they lost weight and became metabolically healthy with no pharmaceuticals prices would go down, not stay stagnant.

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explain with proof. literally losing body fat makes you healthier...glp1 all show positive health outcomes separate of the fat loss on A1C, heart health, fatty liver, cholesterol and trig numbers

you are essentially just making shite up acting like its not making people healthier

literally have dozens of studies showing you are wrong lol

and the drug has been around for close to 2 decades now

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For now. If you don’t think these companies will just pull the rug up and not only replace any lost profits but increase it once they have people properly reliant on these you’ve been asleep for the last 30 years

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wtf are you talking about?

50-55% are using insurance to pay for the drugs. what lost profits? are you talking about the pharma company? because 25% are just paying out of pocket. so roughly 75-80% are paying pharma. another 10ish are using compound and another 10ish using grey market

so wtf are you talking about? insurance companies....well they are making more when people just pay out of pocket

literally affects you positively if anything in terms of insurance cost over time

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It affects every single one of us negatively… in a lot of ways. Financially, national security, emotionally, etc. An unhealthy society is a dying society. And being reliant on these drugs as scale is an unhealthy society. That’s not debatable.

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if anything it affects you positively financially...you have zero proof otherwise and there is lots of proof it is driving down ER visits, weight related illness, weight related health issues

national security wise....what in the frick are you talking about? again just making shite up

so less fat people is a national security risk? well then in that case so are grown arse men that weigh 150lbs or less....but here you are

emotionally....what in the frick. how does someone else taking a pharmaceutical affect you emotionally? if it does, well then you are such a pussy that you have become a national security risk. jesus christ

literally dont even know if someone just decided to diet hard or take the shot yet you claim its a national security threat and affects you emotionally? wtf???

i agree an unhealthy society is a dying society.....so how does a bunch of people using a pharma intervention to get healthy(you can not debate that the people arent much healthier both from a weight stand point but also blood work) make our society worse?

and yea it is debatable that using pharma interventions makes us an unhealthy society


yea i know i was a dick....i own it

So at peak, that is 138M obese out of the 304M in the record. And rates continued to climb from 2010.
What in the world is going on. That’s just crazy.
I guess we really do just want to be fat and happy

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You aren’t a dick, you’re a retard. There is some room for fundamental disagreement in what I said, but you can’t even comprehend it so we can’t get there.

You have an extremely hard time seeing the trees through the forest

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or your arguments make zero sense to anyone else but you.

literally....your claim that its costing you extra money...false

national security issue...umm how is people becoming healthier a national security issue? actually the opposite

mental anguish....how the frick does someone using a pharma intervention to get healthier affect you, someone not using the drug, mentally?

you claim to hate fatties...so shouldnt it help your mental health?

if you want to explain your stances a little more so someone not inside your head can understand...all ears

i absolutely comprehend what you said...problem is your argument doesnt hold up to scrutiny at all

if you said...i would much prefer people dont get fat in the first place...I would agree

if you said...I would like people to just take responsibility for their health and do it the old fashion way...ok cool, I could agree with that


if you said...I worry with eli lilly suing the fda to try and make reta be a biologic so it cost way way more and I worry its going to drive insurance cost up....100% agree

if you said, lack of physicality and being fat is a national security issue...100% agree

if you said looking at fat people everywhere is exhausting to me or listening to fat people whine about how hard things are is exhausting to me...ok we can agree on that

but there is no agreement if we say..

using pharma interventions to get healthy is some how a national security issue or bothers me mentally or somehow makes us more unhealthy

or saying even with 50% of users paying completely out of pocket for a drug that makes them healthier somehow makes my insurance cost go up.....yea no agreement there because the facts are the opposite.

umm yea it is what you said....might not have meant to put it that away but the way you worded it....it absolutely what you said.

and read my edit above