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re: Nvidia CEO Tells College Grads that Trades are Growing Faster Than Professional Office....

Posted on 5/15/26 at 11:03 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/15/26 at 11:03 am to
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His rationale is that the ones who are rejecting it will be the first cuts, because their inability to use it as a tool makes them inefficient and expendable.


The irony here is that these AI initiatives will eventually give the average person the power of a high profile programmer. The negative side of that is that Americans will use it for entertainment far more than for enterprise.

The people who can capitalize on that and use AI to create will always benefit.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38079 posts
Posted on 5/15/26 at 11:08 am to
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And why do you think engineering is safe from AI?


we have had AI in engineering for years. but it is also a licensed field with tons of liability. For new construction...maybe

but AI cant go out and look at a structure & access it, it cant go put on the stethoscope and listen to a pump and access where the vibration is coming from, it cant go look at a substation and why you suddenly lost power, it cant manage projects

but just like computer programs have for years, it makes the engineer way more efficient and a better more competent engineer

now could it replace a lot of software engineers...sure. will it cut down on the amount of engineers you need...prolly through efficiency but engineers are not going anywhere.


if AI was going to replace all engineers than the companies on the pioneering end of AI who have unlimited AI wouldnt have so many engineers. DO you think Elon wouldnt get rid of all the engineers at Spacex, tesla, the boring company etc if he could use AI to do a better job?

same with the Nvidia CEO....why does he have so many engineers on staff?
This post was edited on 5/15/26 at 11:14 am
Posted by Techdave
Laffy
Member since Apr 2014
836 posts
Posted on 5/15/26 at 11:16 am to
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I’m pretty sure most electricians apprenticeships require college. Might be only an associates degree but a bachelors degree won’t hurt.


Where in the hell did you read that? I've never heard that in my life. We are talking an actual electrician or electrical engineer ?
Posted by Techdave
Laffy
Member since Apr 2014
836 posts
Posted on 5/15/26 at 11:21 am to
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But if you get a flood of people retraining to be electricians and plumbers and carpenters...all of those wages are going to go down.


Seems like a better idea to go into a field where the wages are on the upswing like trades than into a field on a downswing.

On top of that, trades will never dry up. They will always have some job security as physical things need to be built.

However, on the other hand, if your job can be replaced by AI, we really don't know at this point. Scary times to consider a field that looks to be replaced with AI.
Posted by BeerMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2012
8925 posts
Posted on 5/15/26 at 11:22 am to
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I would rethink this. If you are going to go to college for 4 years it should be in engineering. IMO degrees like those that you mentioned already are and will be disrupted even more in the future by AI.


A structured learning curriculum in a 2 year degree on practical business concepts. You still have to know what you are asking the AI for. My thinking is it would be parallel to her trade, like a minor in business in a traditional 4 year degree.
Posted by Woolfpack
Member since Jun 2021
1733 posts
Posted on 5/15/26 at 11:31 am to
Regular electrician. But it seems it’s only Local 3 NYC, and Local 5 Pittsburgh and even those require only to start classes after being hired as an apprentice.

I assumed it was an IBEW requirement and not a Local requirement.
Posted by wallowinit
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2006
17748 posts
Posted on 5/15/26 at 11:34 am to
Did you just learn something about free markets on accident?

Good for you

Human behavior is fascinating.
Posted by Techdave
Laffy
Member since Apr 2014
836 posts
Posted on 5/15/26 at 11:34 am to
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Regular electrician. But it seems it’s only Local 3 NYC, and Local 5 Pittsburgh and even those require only to start classes after being hired as an apprentice.

I assumed it was an IBEW requirement and not a Local requirement.



I could see some big-name programs or companies wanting something like that. But the average residential or small plant industrial isn't going to care about some college courses that have no impact on being an electrician.
Posted by Sterling Archer
Member since Aug 2012
8385 posts
Posted on 5/15/26 at 11:46 am to
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Tech Oligarchs.



And that's the issue.

The extremely wealthy owners will have billions of dollars to purchase crap.

If wealth is so concentrated and jobs are eliminated at the scale AI is predicted to reach...who will car companies sell their cars to, who can afford a single family home, what good is companies selling Ads if people can't afford the crap they are advertising..what good is training plumbers/electricians if there aren't enough people who can afford a house.

I feel like people aren't talking about the end game enough.

Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63805 posts
Posted on 5/15/26 at 11:48 am to
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But I told him that nearly every white collar job that didn't go through a trade first is likely endangered.


What are you basing this on?
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38079 posts
Posted on 5/15/26 at 11:48 am to
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More talking industry level. Refineries and such. Most contractors these days, for the manual stuff(scaffold builders, insulators, many welders, etc) are questionable on their legal status.


what? refineries require twic, you cant get twic without legal immigration status dude.
Posted by Woolfpack
Member since Jun 2021
1733 posts
Posted on 5/15/26 at 11:52 am to
Of course. I’m sure any hard working responsible 18 year old kid can easily land him a job twisting wires and crawling around in crawl spaces. If he gets on the right crew where the boss is eager to teach him and not just work him to death, he could certainly learn a great deal and get licensed and have a bright future. (This goes for plumbers too, possibly more so)

I may have conflated this thread about Jensen telling college grads to go into the trades, and the thread about the rapidly approaching demand for tradesmen to build nuclear fricken power plants.
Posted by Gee Grenouille
Member since Jul 2018
8066 posts
Posted on 5/15/26 at 11:53 am to
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The company I work for can't hire controls techs fast enough, and at good money to start.


Send job link lol
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173799 posts
Posted on 5/15/26 at 12:07 pm to
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Nah...

You gotta be talking total billing with per diem included.

No. We're paying electricians more than 300 a year

The per diem is included but we're paying it to locals as well. No residency requirements.

It's actually north of 350 for top electricians with per diem included. I was being conservative. And no those aren't billing rates.
Posted by Beauw
Blanchard
Member since Sep 2007
4235 posts
Posted on 5/15/26 at 12:29 pm to
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I think he's just pointing out the obvious. Tradesmen are valuable.


Unfamiliar with Gaucho’s work eh?
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38079 posts
Posted on 5/15/26 at 12:40 pm to
post the job listing.
Posted by Techdave
Laffy
Member since Apr 2014
836 posts
Posted on 5/15/26 at 12:57 pm to
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Unfamiliar with Gaucho’s work eh?


Not really. Enlighten me about this fella
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63805 posts
Posted on 5/15/26 at 1:10 pm to
el Gaucho is a sage, a prophet, a gentleman, a scholar, and a poet laureate.
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
47810 posts
Posted on 5/15/26 at 1:22 pm to
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A structured learning curriculum in a 2 year degree on practical business concepts. You still have to know what you are asking the AI for. My thinking is it would be parallel to her trade, like a minor in business in a traditional 4 year degree.


This is just my opinion but understanding business concepts is pretty easy for someone that can understand other complex problems. Ill be perfectly honest as someone who owns a service based business.... understanding the books is by far the easiest part of running a business. Anything beyond basics can be handled by your CPA or fed into AI to help you understand better.
Posted by CPA Yung Boi
Member since Apr 2026
28 posts
Posted on 5/15/26 at 1:29 pm to
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No. We're paying electricians more than 300 a year

The per diem is included but we're paying it to locals as well. No residency requirements.

It's actually north of 350 for top electricians with per diem included. I was being conservative. And no those aren't billing rates.


You’re paying independent operators their billing rates of $150/hr, and they’re responsible for self employment tax, their own insurance, tools etc. These guys are probably making like $60 an hour in reality, which is still really good, but WAY outside what you’re advertising.


You aren’t employing electricians for what a partner at a mid sized law firm makes
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