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re: No, we should not send our military to Ukraine. But can we speak the truth?
Posted on 2/24/22 at 8:01 am to Pilot Tiger
Posted on 2/24/22 at 8:01 am to Pilot Tiger
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Borders and sovereignty need to be respected
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Posted on 2/24/22 at 8:01 am to Draconian Sanctions
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One of the most bizarre aspects of this whole thing is how some people in this country have turned into Putin fanboys and started parroting Russian talking points.
that’s because Putin had a sloganeering employee in the White House for 4 years
Posted on 2/24/22 at 8:02 am to BallsEleven
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Ukraine needs to be responsible for Ukraine and not rely on us to fight for it.
The bigger issue is when (not if) Putin takes Narrative Part II into a neighboring NATO country.
Then its game on.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 8:02 am to WaWaWeeWa
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Maybe do a thought experiment about how you would react if Mexico was in talks to join forces with Russia and China and start importing weapons from them.
What's happening now is akin to Mexico invading Texas to reclaim it.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 8:02 am to Slippy
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But can we speak the truth?
The US is as corrupt, if not more so than Russia and China combined.
We need to stop talking like we are on some moral high ground here.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 8:02 am to upgrayedd
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This is the classic lefty talking point for the last 6 years.
No it’s just basic observation from free thinking people. Leftist media outlets aren’t the only ones that have been coopted.
Repeating easily debunked Kremlin talking points about NATO, or accusing the Jewish Ukrainian President of being a neo-Nazi is not “reasonable discussion” btw.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 8:03 am to shawnlsu
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The US is as corrupt, if not more so than Russia and China combined.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 8:03 am to Slippy
Why do we need to send troops ??
Just use drones and bomb all their bases
Just use drones and bomb all their bases
Posted on 2/24/22 at 8:05 am to WaWaWeeWa
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What do you want to do about it? You want to send our boys over there to die on foreign soil fighting a European war for a bunch of pussy countries that have all lost their way?
Literally the first sentence of the OP says no we shouldn’t sent our military Ukraine. Nowhere in this thread or anywhere else have I seen anyone asserting that we should.
This is about the bizarre rhetoric coming from certain corners of our national discourse.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 8:05 am to Draconian Sanctions
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Why yes, yes we are.
Yeah, when we overtly stage a coup, it's cool because we're the good guys and we have democracy on our side
No big deal here, just a sitting US senator at an "overthrow the government" rally in Ukraine a few months before a major conflict broke out
I bet you thought Obama attempting to topple every middle east and north African government at the same time was another example of how we're the good guys too despite the fact that it lead to the deaths of millions and absolute chaos in the region.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 8:05 am to shawnlsu
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The US is as corrupt, if not more so than Russia and China combined.
Batshit
Posted on 2/24/22 at 8:05 am to Nguyener
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Maybe if we spend the next few years rebuilding this country’s independence in manufacturing and energy and production then maybe we will be prepared to fight a global threat.
and by that time (a time which will never happen under your metrics) Russia/China may have a firm foot hold on that part of the globe......one that can never be undone.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 8:05 am to Slippy
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He is corrupt. He controls information through state media and suppresses free speech
Would fit right in over here on the North American continent.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 8:06 am to Slippy
Muh Democracy. American Freedom. Lets gets some facts straight.
- Democrat State Run media
- Job threatened because you want individual freedom to choose to take a jab or not.
- Kids threatened because you want individual freedom to wear a mask or not.
- Religion mocked because you want individual freedom to choose to take a jab or not
-Biden's secret police spying on concerned parents at school board meetings.
- Biden's secret police tracking your bank account if you post memes about Herr Fauci.
- You get harassed in public for wearing a MAGA hat.
- Democrat State Run media
- Job threatened because you want individual freedom to choose to take a jab or not.
- Kids threatened because you want individual freedom to wear a mask or not.
- Religion mocked because you want individual freedom to choose to take a jab or not
-Biden's secret police spying on concerned parents at school board meetings.
- Biden's secret police tracking your bank account if you post memes about Herr Fauci.
- You get harassed in public for wearing a MAGA hat.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 8:06 am to Slippy
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He has invaded a neighboring country that voted for independence over 30 years ago (with over 90% of the vote) and has a democratically elected government.
Um, what?
Posted on 2/24/22 at 8:06 am to upgrayedd
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This is the classic lefty talking point for the last 6 years. Any sort reasonable discussion about the matter gets turned into this line of thinking because the typical democrat isn't capable of rational, critical thought without overbearing emotion.
When the former president is quoted heaping praise on Putin for invading a sovereign country unprovoked, the criticism seems merited.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 8:06 am to Twenty 49
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What's happening now is akin to Mexico invading Texas to reclaim it.
No it’s not you fricking moron. Our country isn’t being invaded.
We aren’t the worlds police. Europe should handle the problem in their back yard.
frick NATO. We have been keeping them afloat for decades while Europe instead spends all its money on its social programs while simultaneously trashing the US for not being “up to their social standards”.
Yea if they had to actually spend money on their own defense they wouldn’t have money for their socialized medicine and all their programs that make Europe “so much more advanced than us”
Posted on 2/24/22 at 8:06 am to Slippy
ole Biden is gonna try to invade Russia during the winter, isn't he?
Posted on 2/24/22 at 8:06 am to CharlesLSU
Then you can go fight and volunteer your sons
Posted on 2/24/22 at 8:06 am to nes2010
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I'm more concerned about when China takes Taiwan.
Don’t worry, once Teedy destroys Mardi Gras, you won’t need anymore beads and trinkets.
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