re: New Study on Rising Suicide Rates Suggests Capitalism Is Quite Literally Killing Us

We need more equality in this area.

Capitalism is dead in this country. Crony corporatism has replaced it.

We are all cogs in the Ponzi scheme

People 150 years ago didn't commit suicide because they were too busy trying to die from disease, war and just being killed by some grifter.

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gets by I think will think shite through a little more simply due to boredom, and realize the world is awful and they've failed to meet their personal expectations of themselves, obsess over it, and then go and pull the trigger.

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This right here.

An idle mind is the worst thing possible for a depressed person.

Nah, it’s your posts that are killing us.

...And your moms smelly gash.

I'm not going to take up for the Bernie Bros and the suicide stuff is likely due to other factors. But, I do think there is kernel of truth to OP in the sense that a heavy debt-based infinite growth based money system seems doomed to collapse at some point. How long can interest rates stay low, the Fed keep printing, and the people/government keep taking on debt? "Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell." I don't know what the alternative is, though, other than what some of the Austrian theorists espouse.

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I'm not going to take up for the Bernie Bros and the suicide stuff is likely due to other factors. But, I do think there is kernel of truth to OP in the sense that a heavy debt-based infinite growth based money system seems doomed to collapse at some point. How long can interest rates stay low, the Fed keep printing, and the people/government keep taking on debt? "Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell." I don't know what the alternative is, though, other than what some of the Austrian theorists espouse.

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But what's the alternative? Living in a one bedroom apartment with 9 different people? Because within this circle, that's sadly a norm:



Americans don't know the definition of poverty.

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It's actually somewhat believable to me that people who have way too much time and luxury on their hands commit suicide more. These people in shithole countries are just trying to stay alive and protect their kids. A macho man in the midwest who struggles with mental illness and gets by I think will think shite through a little more simply due to boredom, and realize the world is awful and they've failed to meet their personal expectations of themselves, obsess over it, and then go and pull the trigger.

7 out of 10 suicide victims in this country are white men. Let that sink in to where there's some truth to this.

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I seem to recall some psychological phenomenon or something like that where happiness and mental illness tend to be founded on relative measures, rather than absolute criteria.

That is, if I have a net worth of $10MM, even though I am wealthier and live a better life than all but 0.0001% of the world and all but 0.0000001% of humans who've ever lived, I will be unhappy/depressed if I live in a community where everyone else was worth $50MM.

People in places like Cuba or Venezuela or most of Africa or wherever just simply can't really conceive of what life is like for the developed world, and many have no real point of reference (other than very remote and intangible things like movies or television shows) for the delta between the material well-being of themselves and the material well-being of an upper middle class family in the U.S. That's not the case at all for people who are struggling either economically or mentally or both in the U.S.

ETA: It's perhaps at least one reason why some of these really poor Central American countries have some of the highest happiness indexes in the world.

I'm sure communism will fix it