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re: New Category 6 Hurricane Classification Proposed Due to Climate Change
Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:45 am to Aubie Spr96
Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:45 am to Aubie Spr96
Just cut to the chase and make it 11.
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Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:47 am to Aubie Spr96
I should have clarified earlier; to piggyback off of a couple of other posts earlier ITT, this is all fear porn.
"Climate change" is one of the biggest hoaxes to ever be brought upon mankind.
"Climate change" is one of the biggest hoaxes to ever be brought upon mankind.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:49 am to Aubie Spr96
Category 6's should always have a woman's name.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:49 am to stout
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Just a reminder that nothing has really changed since 1900 regarding hurricanes despite the constant global warming fear mongering
Correct, note the statement is not saying they have seen an increase in wind speeds.
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the potential wind intensity of hurricanes – also known as tropical cyclones or typhoons in oceans outside the Atlantic and East Pacific – is increasing
Simply the potential, not actual recorded wind intensity, is increasing. Why is that potential increasing? Because they want it to. No basis in reality.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:52 am to Aubie Spr96
Cat 6 = Crawfish prices ?
Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:55 am to Joshjrn
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I have no opinion on whether there is actually a need for this
Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:56 am to wileyjones
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Why stop at 6?
In fact, why not 200 or so categories where each category is a wind speed? Why the middle step?
... and don't forget to throw in some "it feels like" things
It feels like wind speed is 1,000 miles an hour --- category 200
Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:57 am to Aubie Spr96
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as climate change leads to soaring ocean temperatures
They're gonna regret this type of hyperbole when everyone starts to doubt them when the world doesn't end in 20 years.
The ocean temperatures aren't "soaring".
Posted on 2/6/24 at 9:00 am to bayou2
What a shame that the world "superstorm" got used for the other end of the scale.
Just because some Joisyites got away with building their houses right next to the beaches with no protective sand dunes and cheaper slab construction and a little storm got them flooded, it had to be (insert trumpet intro) a Superstorm .
Just because some Joisyites got away with building their houses right next to the beaches with no protective sand dunes and cheaper slab construction and a little storm got them flooded, it had to be (insert trumpet intro) a Superstorm .
Posted on 2/6/24 at 9:07 am to Aubie Spr96
Well we've never measured a hurricane over 190 Peak 1-minute sustained winds. That was in 1980, so I really don't see the point of a Cat 6.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 9:10 am to Joshjrn
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They will just change 5 to 6.
We will go from Cat 4 to Cat 6 on the scale.
Reason being the actual Category 6 would be too rare to be useful to them.
The Saffir-Simpson scale is logarithmic. Currently, Cat 4 is 130-156 and Cat 5 is 157+. Had you made it to third sentence in the article, you would have seen that they are proposing changing Cat 5 to 157 to 192, with Cat 6 being 193+.
I have no opinion on whether there is actually a need for this, but some of you just look for reasons to be pissy.
From what I can find there has only been 1 storm in recorded history where winds exceeding 190 have been recorded, and that was Hurricane Patricia in the Pacific and it made landfall as a Cat 4 in Jalisco, Mexico on October 23, 2015.
So it seems like fear-mongering to me.
An interesting thing is also that we now have methods of recording the wind forces we did not have in the past so I wonder how much of what we see as increased activity is simply our ability to see storms forming in the middle of the ocean and to take wind reading when the storm is at its peak offshore. I do feel a lot of recorded storms now that form in the Atlantic and never make landfall as a tropical storm went unnoticed as a TS 100 or even 70 years ago.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 9:11 am to Aubie Spr96
It's all so tiresome
Posted on 2/6/24 at 9:17 am to Joshjrn
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I have no opinion on whether there is actually a need for this, but some of you just look for reasons to be pissy.
People are obviously suspect. They will add a cat 6 category and later use the addition to prove that climate change needs to be stopped.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 9:19 am to Aubie Spr96
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New Category 6 Hurricane Classification Proposed Due to Climate Change
Just because some random dumbasses plus the dumbasses at CNN think so doesn’t mean anyone is taking a serious look at doing this.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 9:19 am to Aubie Spr96
this is stupid. we barely get cat 5's as it is.
Posted on 2/6/24 at 9:20 am to The Boat
quote:you should ask ACH her opinion
The Boat
Posted on 2/6/24 at 9:31 am to Aubie Spr96
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Climate Change
The new catch phrase is "human induced climate change"
Posted on 2/6/24 at 9:36 am to mdomingue
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From what I can find there has only been 1 storm in recorded history where winds exceeding 190 have been recorded, and that was Hurricane Patricia in the Pacific and it made landfall as a Cat 4 in Jalisco, Mexico on October 23, 2015.
Don't feel like doing the research, but based on the article it says there were 5 storms in the past 10 years that exceeded 192 mph
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In fact, of the 197 tropical cyclones worldwide that reached Category 5 status between 1980 and 2021, five exceeded the hypothetical Category 6 threshold, the study found. All five occurred since 2013, including 2015’s Hurricane Patricia, which hit Mexico, and Super Typhoon Haiyan, which devastated the Philippines in 2013.
Which brings up the question, if there are so few why the need to create a new category?
Interesting enough, the strongest hurricane in the Atlantic appears to have been from 1980.
This post was edited on 2/6/24 at 9:37 am
Posted on 2/6/24 at 9:44 am to mdomingue
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From what I can find there has only been 1 storm in recorded history where winds exceeding 190 have been recorded, and that was Hurricane Patricia in the Pacific and it made landfall as a Cat 4 in Jalisco, Mexico on October 23, 2015.
From wiki, so take it for what it’s worth.
I’d add Camille to the list. It’s an estimate, but 200 mph sustained for this storm.
It’s my understanding that wind gauges used to measure speeds from storms 40+ years ago were often destroyed from the winds they were recording.
Maybe this is why estimates exceed what is recorded.
Camille
Posted on 2/6/24 at 10:05 am to Aubie Spr96
Fun fact, a Category 3 storm can cause more damage than a Category 5 storm.
It just matters where it hits, size, trajectory in relation to the coast, and many other factors. So you almost need a different calculation simulator to determine a scale of intensity.
For example Katrina was slowly dying as a Cat 3 when she hit the coast. Yes she was Cat 5 in the gulf, but the winds were starting to subside spread out affecting a much larger area. Also dry air was getting sucked into the system. I can remember seeing a radar where there was a pocket of no rain around Houma, but the winds were still whipping. With that said, the storm surge still hadn't subsided as much as what a Category 3 storm would have.
Fast forward to Ida where the winds were whipping well over 150 MPH in Fourchon. Ida was much more compact and had less of an impact to New Orleans besides power outages and a few significantly damaged buildings. It had a greater impact on the bayou region, but her compact eye and the fact that she did not lose steam until she was well inland made her a much stronger storm, but the impacts were less overall than Katrina. The storm surge did not have nearly as much time to build and the focal point of land fall did not impact the Mississippi Gulf Coast as Katrina.
That is why Categories for storms are a mixed bag of information.
It just matters where it hits, size, trajectory in relation to the coast, and many other factors. So you almost need a different calculation simulator to determine a scale of intensity.
For example Katrina was slowly dying as a Cat 3 when she hit the coast. Yes she was Cat 5 in the gulf, but the winds were starting to subside spread out affecting a much larger area. Also dry air was getting sucked into the system. I can remember seeing a radar where there was a pocket of no rain around Houma, but the winds were still whipping. With that said, the storm surge still hadn't subsided as much as what a Category 3 storm would have.
Fast forward to Ida where the winds were whipping well over 150 MPH in Fourchon. Ida was much more compact and had less of an impact to New Orleans besides power outages and a few significantly damaged buildings. It had a greater impact on the bayou region, but her compact eye and the fact that she did not lose steam until she was well inland made her a much stronger storm, but the impacts were less overall than Katrina. The storm surge did not have nearly as much time to build and the focal point of land fall did not impact the Mississippi Gulf Coast as Katrina.
That is why Categories for storms are a mixed bag of information.
This post was edited on 2/6/24 at 1:11 pm
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