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re: New Category 6 Hurricane Classification Proposed Due to Climate Change

Posted on 2/6/24 at 7:26 am to
Posted by Arkapigdiesel
Arkansas
Member since Jun 2009
13266 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 7:26 am to
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Climate Change
Posted by Deplorableinohio
Member since Dec 2018
5596 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 7:38 am to
Well if these preeminent scientists say it’s so, it must be.

FO.
Posted by cyarrr
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2017
3370 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 7:39 am to
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Yeah it really sucks. We have known for a long time this would be an issue. We refused to take action and buy Priuses and electric cars, instead driving big F-250s and Tundras and big SUVs. Now we’ll pay the price with stronger hurricanes and more expensive insurance.


Don’t forget about cow farts, am I right?

We should collectively become vegans, ban ICE vehicles and use bicycles manufactured by a diverse, equitable and all inclusive workforce for our daily commutes.

Need to ban those pesky volcanoes as well.



Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
27103 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 7:41 am to
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They will just change 5 to 6.

We will go from Cat 4 to Cat 6 on the scale.

Reason being the actual Category 6 would be too rare to be useful to them.


The Saffir-Simpson scale is logarithmic. Currently, Cat 4 is 130-156 and Cat 5 is 157+. Had you made it to third sentence in the article, you would have seen that they are proposing changing Cat 5 to 157 to 192, with Cat 6 being 193+.

I have no opinion on whether there is actually a need for this, but some of you just look for reasons to be pissy.
Posted by Kevin Garvey
Member since Jun 2017
247 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 7:42 am to
I'm surprised they aren't proposing a total re-scaling of the Saffir-Simpson to where a current Cat 5 is now a Cat 6. That would have allowed present day tropical storms to be categorized as Cat 1 hurricanes. More "hurricanes" legitimizes agenda.
The climate change alarmists love to move goalposts. I'm actually not triggered by the proposal. Don't like it, just not triggered.

eta: They only thing I worry about with this and climate hysteria in general is inflation of the storm's metrics. If it's reported that Hurricane X has winds of 175mph, how can that be argued against? Some baw in a Boston Whaler gonna go a hundred miles offshore and use his pocket anemometer?
This post was edited on 2/6/24 at 7:51 am
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George
Member since Aug 2004
78024 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 7:53 am to
Holding out for a Cat 350
Posted by BPTiger
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2011
5313 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:00 am to
BREAKING NEWS: In a day we could have avoided but will never forget we regret to bring news that, today, we will witness the world’s first ever CATEGORY 6 HURRICANE!!!

The barometric pressure is not the lowest on record nor are the wind speeds the highest on record but according to the updated ratings scale this could be the most catastrophic event in human history. We’ll be back with more after these DEI advertisements. Stay with us.
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167357 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:01 am to
Just a reminder that nothing has really changed since 1900 regarding hurricanes despite the constant global warming fear mongering



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A Wall Street Journal columnist wrote that when it comes to hurricanes, too much is made of the climate change effect.

"Atlantic hurricanes are not becoming more frequent," columnist Bjorn Lomborg wrote Sept. 3. "In fact, the frequency of hurricanes making landfall in the continental U.S. has declined slightly since 1900."

Lomborg continued.

"There aren’t more powerful hurricanes either. The frequency of Category 3 and above hurricanes making landfall since 1900 is also trending slightly down," he wrote.

Lomborg is a Danish political scientist and president of Copenhagen Consensus Center, a Danish think tank. He has long questioned conventional wisdom on climate change, and his column said improving infrastructure would do more to save lives and property than cutting carbon emissions.

The idea that the U.S. is seeing fewer hurricanes, and fewer powerful ones as well, runs counter to the thrust of many news articles. It's fair to say that hurricanes sit in one of the knottier corners of climate change where the trends and underlying forces are tough to untangle. But Lomborg overstates the data.

Downward trend vs. no trend in frequency

Lomborg cites a 2018 article in the Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society that had a chart showing a slight decline in the yearly number of hurricanes that hit the U.S.




Chart of hurricanes making landfall in the U.S. since 1900 (© American Meteorological Society. Used with permission.)

Hurricane activity swings up and down, and the authors use a statistical device to create an overall trend line — the dotted line in the chart.

"I simply show the data of what actually has happened, as documented in the best, peer-reviewed papers, to contrast what many believe from listening to a media filled with hurricane reporting," Lomborg told us.

Lomborg’s data, though, is more ambiguous than first appears. The study’s authors note that their dotted line is not statistically significant.

One of the authors, Roger Pielke Jr., a political scientist in the University of Colorado’s environmental studies program, affirmed Lomborg’s claim about a slight decline. But he also said the latest U.N. report found "no trend in the frequency of U.S. landfall events."

A finding of "no trend" is not the same as finding a downward trend.

The decrease was not meaningful, said Christopher Landsea, National Hurricane Center’s chief of Tropical Analysis and Forecast Branch. Researchers in this field emphasize that looking back to 1900, there is no discernable trend, up or down.



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Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
51705 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:01 am to
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New Category 6 Hurricane Classification Proposed Due to Climate Change


That's nothing, just wait until Category 6 XL! It's got electrolytes!
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68761 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:04 am to
I see they just want to add on not adjust the lowers.

But I do find this always contradictory.


quote:

Hurricanes are becoming more dangerous. Here’s why


quote:

Over the last two-plus centuries, human activity — mainly the burning of fossil fuels – has added lots of heat to the oceans and air where these storms are spawned.



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In 1961, Hurricane Esther became the first storm to be recorded by a weather satellite.


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Though global temperature data goes back over 150 years, hurricane records are actually very sparse prior to the 1970s, when satellites first began capturing images of all of the world’s oceans.


lol, so how do they know?

What a huge scam this all is.





This post was edited on 2/6/24 at 8:12 am
Posted by Park duck
Sip
Member since Oct 2018
396 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:06 am to
Lame BS

I wonder what my Meteorologist professors would say about this????? Yeah they'd say the same, lame bs.
Posted by Areddishfish
The Wild West
Member since Oct 2015
6284 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:11 am to
Lol. The hurricanes have a hard enough time getting to Cat 5 and holding it.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
38237 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:11 am to
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argue as climate change leads to soaring ocean temperatures


Ocean temperatures only do so much in terms of cyclogenesis. The upper level environment is much more impactful in terms of cyclogenesis potential.


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the potential wind intensity of hurricanes


“Potential”

We haven’t seen shite change in terms of intensity.


Stupid political bullshite.
Posted by kmcmah1
Member since Mar 2009
1074 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:21 am to
“These go to 11”
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
25034 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:23 am to
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The study’s authors – Jim Kossin, a distinguished science advisor at the First Street Foundation, and Michael Wehner, a senior scientist at the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory – argue as climate change leads to soaring ocean temperatures, the potential wind intensity of hurricanes – also known as tropical cyclones or typhoons in oceans outside the Atlantic and East Pacific – is increasing.
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
26636 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:24 am to
You can go to category 100 if you move the goal post...
Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
Member since Feb 2005
17869 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:28 am to
The fear porn is disgusting


It’s bad enough that every popcorn fart thunderstorm gets named now. The instant a rain cloud has a gust of wind or a sensitive bouy marker registers a swell, every new station in the south get to use their shiny new graphics. It is entertainment for most.
Posted by MemphisGuy
Member since Nov 2023
3276 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:29 am to
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You can go to category 100 if you move the goal post...



Heck, change the lower end as well. 50-75 = cat 1 etc.

That way, you'd have more hurricanes each year and your agenda would be better fit.

"We are having more hurricanes than ever"
Posted by tketaco
Sunnyside, Houston
Member since Jan 2010
19549 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:43 am to
Was there a Max for a Cat 5 or was it infinite until they feel like there needs to be a 6 for marketing purposes? Was there a number of High Cat 5's to justify it?
Posted by jmh5724
Member since Jan 2012
2138 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:45 am to
These people are way behind, Marucci already released the Cat X last year
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