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re: More details emerge on the "Cornell 7"
Posted on 10/5/26 at 12:34 pm to biscuitsngravy
Posted on 10/5/26 at 12:34 pm to biscuitsngravy
I just don't see how its at all possible to determine whether a crime or assault occurred at this point. Its a he said she said, with the "she" initially saying that the "he" did nothing illegal.
Posted on 10/5/26 at 12:35 pm to Spankum
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One very important lesson we should all learn from college….7 guys fricking one girl is not likely to turn out that well. The circumstances don’t really matter much at all,
If you actually read it, apparently 4 guys banging 1 chick doesn't turn out well.
2 of the others didn't do anything but take ketamine, and the other 1 guy forcibly kissed her (doesn't say anything about ketamine).
Posted on 10/5/26 at 12:36 pm to biscuitsngravy
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But in fairness to DA, the Univ Police reportedly omitted her statements that she was raped and surrounded by a group of men. It also apparently didn't include the 'free pussy', 'come whip it out bros' invitation either.
I think that she said she was raped while surrounded by a group of men after a social media invitation for guys to come frick her --correct or not -- is why so much public opinion has been questioning why the DA didn't pursue it.
Posted on 10/5/26 at 12:43 pm to wm72
from what i've read, and could be wrong obviously, this allegation / comment was ommitted from the summary to the DA as well as the snap chat invitation to the rest of the fraternity.
Posted on 10/5/26 at 12:54 pm to biscuitsngravy
Train Doe Strikes Back
This post was edited on 10/5/26 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 10/5/26 at 1:02 pm to PSS101
quote:It happened.
Did this really happen or is this made up?
Posted on 10/5/26 at 1:05 pm to wm72
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s why so much public opinion has been questioning why the DA didn't pursue it.
Because in the initial police report done two years ago, which she signed, she said it was consensual.
Posted on 10/5/26 at 1:16 pm to LemmyLives
Then she got slut shamed and THEN and ONLY then did it become rape
Posted on 10/5/26 at 1:19 pm to Funky Tide 8
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I just don't see how its at all possible to determine whether a crime or assault occurred at this point. Its a he said she said, with the "she" initially saying that the "he" did nothing illegal.
Yeah, all the publicly available evidence out there points to this being too much of a mess to possibly get to a conviction under a criminal standard. The civil case may be a different story with the PR involved creating significant incentives for settlements.
Posted on 10/5/26 at 1:25 pm to LemmyLives
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Because in the initial police report done two years ago, which she signed, she said it was consensual.
I don't think I'm going out on a limb to say :
If I were a campus police and I had a college girl claiming gang rape then saying maybe not since she took a lot of drugs and things were fuzzy and then a text telling a group of guys to come frick her.
I'd give ALL that info to the regular police as fast as I possibly could and put it on their plate.
Posted on 10/5/26 at 1:28 pm to biscuitsngravy
quote:The entire packet was assuredly sent to the DA with the summary. If attorneys didn't read it, that's on them.
his allegation / comment was ommitted from the summary to the DA as well as the snap chat invitation to the rest of the fraternity.
Perhaps we'll see the actual contents of the entire submission. The omitted comment about "100% rape" was the girl's opinion. Findings were going to be based on the facts she alleged, not on her opinion as to what the legal findings should be. Based on the factset she provided at the time, her opinion was irrelevant.
She has now altered her claim though, and says Male #1 & #4 forced her to have oral sex later in the night, when the three of them were doing another threesome in a different room by themselves. I'd speculate that to be an attorney encouraged claim to strengthen her civil case. But Tish James will use it as basis for pursuing criminal charges. Given the trial venue, and state resources involved, Ingalls (Male #1) and Lopes (Male #4) will be in a tough spot, regardless of the truth of her claim.
Just a sad situation all around. Meanwhile, she's on social media, living in NY with a new boyfriend, and seems to be doing a-okay.
Posted on 10/5/26 at 1:28 pm to Giantkiller
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I'm curious if this part is going to be mentioned on Dateline, 20/20, or The View.
Bonus points if they include a diagram.
Posted on 10/5/26 at 1:29 pm to wm72
quote:They gave it all to the DA.
I'd give ALL that info to the regular police as fast as I possibly could and put it on their plate.
Posted on 10/5/26 at 1:32 pm to Cosmo
quote:Would you lower your "high frat standards" and let any of them in if their daddy pledged to pay for all the kegs for the semester?
At least 3 of those guys would have had no shot of getting into my frat
Posted on 10/5/26 at 1:34 pm to wm72
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The contention I've read is that Cornell withheld information from the local police in order to handle it internally that would have made it more likely for the prosecutor to pursue charges at the time. That seemed to be what the prosecutor claimed at least.
LINK
This video recap from Will Cain on Fox indicates Jane Doe gave completely different statements to the police two years ago than what she is alleging today.
Posted on 10/5/26 at 1:39 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:Not only that, he was one of the 2 that was so intoxicated, he had to withdraw from the orgy - to the point that the gal was worried about him...and yet, she went back to sex with him.
This is the one guy that absolutely had consent Of course he's expelled.
pRoGrEsS
Funny how SHE wasn't expelled, no?
Posted on 10/5/26 at 1:43 pm to NC_Tigah
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They gave it all to the DA.
I thought the DA said they left out:
Her stating she was raped (which if her opinion or not) seems pretty important to send to the investigating police detectives especially if it's supported by a text message to a friends group inviting them to come frick her?
Am I wrong about that? Did that text message stuff all come out later?
I realize most here want the girl to be wrong so badly they can't stand it.
However, that text message inviting more guys to come frick her is the exact thing which seems sketchier than horny college kids getting fricked up and crossing into gray areas.
Posted on 10/5/26 at 1:56 pm to wm72
quote:No. That is what the DA said. He also said Lucy Craig had significantly changed her story. He would know that because the summary is not all he had.
I thought the DA said they left out:
Her stating she was raped (which if her opinion or not) seems pretty important to send to the investigating police detectives especially if it's supported by a text message to a friends group inviting them to come frick her?
Am I wrong about that?
I guess he could have said the girl attested to facts which clearly did not constitute rape. She told us it was rape in her opinion. Based on the facts she brought, her opinion was wrong.
But that would not be politically expedient, to put it mildly.
This post was edited on 10/5/26 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 10/5/26 at 1:59 pm to wm72
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I realize most here want the girl to be wrong so badly they can't stand it.
No, most men here recognize the bullshite double standard that exists when it comes to these situations and are tired of it.
Here, I'll provide a helpful diagram:
Posted on 10/5/26 at 2:00 pm to EdgarAllenHoe
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Free pussy is certainly not free
Freedom isn’t free
There’s a hefty frickin fee
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