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re: Montgomery AL - airport employee sucked into engine in fatal accident

Posted on 1/1/23 at 1:07 pm to
Posted by Passing Wind
Dutchtown
Member since Apr 2015
4853 posts
Posted on 1/1/23 at 1:07 pm to
quote:

I fly this exact airplane. There’s no reason why anyone should be anywhere near a running engine. On pushback, usually only one engine is started, and on arrival to the gate, usually only one is running also.
so at idle would it suck someone in, or would it need to be above that?
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
23923 posts
Posted on 1/1/23 at 1:13 pm to

Sounds like he was burned out on his job.
This post was edited on 1/1/23 at 1:14 pm
Posted by auwaterfowler
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
2866 posts
Posted on 1/1/23 at 1:18 pm to
What exactly is left of you after that??
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24213 posts
Posted on 1/1/23 at 1:18 pm to
quote:

so at idle would it suck someone in, or would it need to be above that?


Solid question. How close would a human need to be when those planes are just taxing around? As said it’s one thing when it’s producing enough thrust to fly but just at idle I can’t believe there would be much of a vacuum force?
Posted by Traveler
I'm not late-I'm early for tomorrow
Member since Sep 2003
26409 posts
Posted on 1/1/23 at 1:45 pm to
I have seen the internals of an engine after bird ingestion and the damage and mess it produces. I don’t want to think of what body fragments would do.
Posted by Traveler
I'm not late-I'm early for tomorrow
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Posted on 1/1/23 at 1:57 pm to


This post was edited on 1/1/23 at 2:07 pm
Posted by DesScorp
Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
10311 posts
Posted on 1/1/23 at 2:09 pm to
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What exactly is left of you after that??


More than you think. Way back when I was in the Navy, when someone would get hoovered up into an engine (A-7's were notorious for the strength of their intake "pull"), the engine would have to be removed, crated up, and sent to a base so that it could be completely dismantled to remove human remains. A chief that had been involved in one during Vietnam explained the process to me. Not the best duty to have.

This post was edited on 1/1/23 at 2:12 pm
Posted by tketaco
Sunnyside, Houston
Member since Jan 2010
21748 posts
Posted on 1/1/23 at 2:27 pm to
A video of it would be bad arse.
Posted by flyingtexastiger
Southlake, TX
Member since Oct 2005
1778 posts
Posted on 1/1/23 at 3:26 pm to
quote:

The link below has a old vid of a sailor living after being sucked through a jet engine.


He didn't go through the engine (although his cranial did). He got sucked down the intake and was caught by the inlet guide vanes. They shut it down and pulled him back out the front.
Posted by RedFoxx
New Orleans, LA
Member since Jan 2009
6751 posts
Posted on 1/1/23 at 4:40 pm to
quote:

Cargo doors are in rear.


This plane has the main cargo bin directly forward of the right hand engine.

Not sure which engine he was near.
Posted by HeyCap
Member since Nov 2014
1095 posts
Posted on 1/1/23 at 4:44 pm to
The external power cord used to provide electrical power to the aircraft while at the gate is typically part of the jetway structure, on the left side of the aircraft. If the aircraft’s APU (auxiliary power unit) is inop it’s not unusual to keep the no.1 engine running until external power is attached. It’s not a normal operation but not uncommon. If the ramp crew doesn’t realize this and loses situational awareness accidents can happen.

I hear the APU was inop in this aircraft.
Posted by lake2280
Public intellectual
Member since Nov 2012
4474 posts
Posted on 1/1/23 at 4:51 pm to
What movie is that from?
Posted by RedFoxx
New Orleans, LA
Member since Jan 2009
6751 posts
Posted on 1/1/23 at 5:00 pm to
quote:

The external power cord used to provide electrical power to the aircraft while at the gate is typically part of the jetway structure, on the left side of the aircraft. If the aircraft’s APU (auxiliary power unit) is inop it’s not unusual to keep the no.1 engine running until external power is attached. It’s not a normal operation but not uncommon. If the ramp crew doesn’t realize this and loses situational awareness accidents can happen. I hear the APU was inop in this aircraft.


When I first heard about what happened my first thought was this is probably airstart related. But what you said makes more sense.
Posted by HeyCap
Member since Nov 2014
1095 posts
Posted on 1/1/23 at 5:06 pm to
quote:

When I first heard about what happened my first thought was this is probably airstart related. But what you said makes more sense.


Contrary to news reports it happened on arrival, not departure.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24213 posts
Posted on 1/1/23 at 7:54 pm to
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Contrary to news reports it happened on arrival, not departure.


Guy just not paying attention at all or what? Hell I’d think training would keep them way away.

I’m still curious what the actual vacuum power would be? I mean it can’t be that great I wouldn’t think or it would suck shite up from the taxi way/ airport that was on the ground?
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
15129 posts
Posted on 1/1/23 at 9:28 pm to
Happened at ELP in 2006 with a Continental 737-500, except it was a mechanic going after his hat.
Posted by tokenBoiler
Lafayette, Indiana
Member since Aug 2012
5054 posts
Posted on 1/1/23 at 9:28 pm to
quote:

quote:
I’m betting suicide


Probably gang initiation


Was he vaxxed?

eta: Never mind, I see that's been covered. So, Hillary'ed?

This post was edited on 1/1/23 at 9:34 pm
Posted by HeyCap
Member since Nov 2014
1095 posts
Posted on 1/1/23 at 9:42 pm to
quote:

Guy just not paying attention at all or what? Hell I’d think training would keep them way away.


When things become routine complacency sets in. If the engine is shut down 99% of the time at the point when the ramper usually walks by it, it’s a little easier to understand how accidents like this happen. Checks and balances are built in but something was missed or ignored.
As for the engine intake, if you ever see one idling over a standing water there’s a good chance you’ll see a vortex stream of water being ingested by the engine. They are sucking in a tremendous volume of air even at idle.
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
33819 posts
Posted on 1/1/23 at 9:50 pm to
Does anyone remember when Jeff Van Gundy's car got damaged by a jet engine at the airport the Knicks flew from? The craziest part of the story was this happened when he was the Knicks head coach, and he was driving a six or seven year old Honda Civic.

Patrick Ewing should passed the hat around to his teammates, and bought him a new Civic.
Posted by Misnomer
Member since Apr 2020
3737 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 12:00 am to
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He will be mist.


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