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re: Mississippi sues federal government over river flooding, claims ORCS is to blame

Posted on 2/12/19 at 9:26 am to
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
48557 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 9:26 am to
quote:

claims ORCS is to blame
That's crazy. Killer whales aren't even in the Mississippi River.





ORCS



Not Orcas



Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
30182 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 9:27 am to
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I'm not sure that this is entirely true.


I phrased that incorrectly. The river would be cut in two as far as navigation is concerned. A shoal would form near ORCS. Barges would not be able to pass this until infrastructure was put in place to combat it. Nothing coming up the river could go north of ORCS, and nothing coming down the river could go south of ORCS.
This post was edited on 2/12/19 at 9:29 am
Posted by Ole War Skule
North Shore
Member since Sep 2003
3409 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 9:30 am to
haha...I misread title and expected

Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34216 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 9:33 am to
Mississippi has improved quite a bit in the past 5 years. Education ranking improved 3 spots, state is not losing residents, and trying their best to emulate Texas tax structure
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 9:34 am to
I posted this in another thread yesterday, but the Atchafalaya would have overtaken the Mississippi likely by the end the end of the century, if not surely by 2200 if not for the ORCS.
Posted by Capt ST
High Plains
Member since Aug 2011
13712 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 9:38 am to
She would have done it in 73 if ORCS would have failed. Probably would have taken out I10 and Morgan City in the process.
This post was edited on 2/12/19 at 9:39 am
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41600 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 9:42 am to
Can someone explain to me what exactly the problem MS is having? How is ORCS causing silt to end up on land owned by MS school districts? What are the MS school districts doing with this land?

Also, ORCS has been around for generations, why is this an issue now?

Saying we should get rid of ORCS is unconscionable. It would not only be a death penalty to all of SE Louisiana Baton Rouge to the gulf, but the infusion of water into the Atchafalaya would absolutely destroy the communities along it. There is a big reason people freak out during high river events where ORCS is threatened.

The economic disaster would be unthinkable.

Having said that, if the structure does place real problems on MS, then that needs to be addressed. Do a fedgov buyout of the land, or lease for a few million a year or something.
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 9:43 am to
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MS River water really isnt very contaminated. it is actually one of the cleaner water sources. Go read the mercury thread on the OB.


I'll go check it out.
Posted by Shunface
Lafayette County Detention Center
Member since Jan 2013
5563 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 10:02 am to
Came here to learn about orcs attacking our rivers.

I’m disappointed.
Posted by DmitriKaramazov
Member since Nov 2015
5658 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 10:06 am to
When did Ohio and Illinois switch places? Very odd map.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 11:04 am to
quote:

I posted this in another thread yesterday, but the Atchafalaya would have overtaken the Mississippi likely by the end the end of the century, if not surely by 2200 if not for the ORCS



1972 if not before

The ORCS is its own worst enemy though and will be its own undoing.

Its almost like some folks dont grasp why the river stage records keep getting broken.



Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21836 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 11:12 am to
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it had one purpose and that was to save NO


Yes

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however is going to end up causing many more problems as well as flooding NO


Nope. In no way would ORCS ever flood NO. It would cause many problems (some catastrophic), but not flooding.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 11:18 am to
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I believe that it would be many years before the riverbed would start to silt up.


You may be right. And I am not an expert (except on the OT). But wouldn't Southwest Pass silt up pretty quickly, which would pretty much close the river to navigation upstream? It may take a while to shallow up in New Orleans, but it would not matter if the mouth of the river effectively closed up.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
106010 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 11:21 am to
I guess you could dredge like a MF to keep it open. Another big issue would be saltwater intrusion.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 11:23 am to
quote:

Saying we should get rid of ORCS is unconscionable. It would not only be a death penalty to all of SE Louisiana Baton Rouge to the gulf, but the infusion of water into the Atchafalaya would absolutely destroy the communities along it. There is a big reason people freak out during high river events where ORCS is threatened.


I agree with you. That said, last time they opened Morganza (2011, I think) it was not nearly as bad as predicted for those in the spillway.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 11:25 am to
The pass is silting up as we speak. There have been draft restrictions lately limiting ship movements
Posted by Ash Williams
South of i-10
Member since May 2009
18563 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 11:32 am to
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I agree with you. That said, last time they opened Morganza (2011, I think) it was not nearly as bad as predicted for those in the spillway.



Yea but if it wasnt for the seawall morgan city wouldve been wrecked
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
106010 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 11:34 am to
On second thought, if I could drive over to Ferriday and catch speckled trout it would all be worth it.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
58802 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 11:37 am to
Look at it this way.

If the river became saline all the way up to Natchez, that part would no longer have Asian carp
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 12:22 pm to
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There have been draft restrictions lately limiting ship movements


When will they put the restrictions in final form?
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