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re: Mississippi sues federal government over river flooding, claims ORCS is to blame
Posted on 2/12/19 at 7:54 am to BottomlandBrew
Posted on 2/12/19 at 7:54 am to BottomlandBrew
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The river would not be navigable south of Natchez for some time after the flow transition took place
I'm not sure that this is entirely true.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 7:56 am to member12
at the shite talking about the state of Mississippi from people that live in Louisiana
Posted on 2/12/19 at 8:11 am to redneck
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shite talking
I saw a similar situation in Chicago when a couple of homeless chaps got into an argument over the location of their spots on the sidewalk.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 8:12 am to Chuker
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thats not the lawsuit here. The suit was if the ORCS negatively affected Mississippi's 16th section land. Which it did.
Got it. I’ll be curious to see how they get past federal immunity on flood control.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 8:20 am to member12
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Without the structure, the Mississippi River could shift course away from Baton Rouge and New Orleans. That could cut off the flow of river water altogether, meaning no fresh water for drinking,
You draw your drinking water from the river?
Posted on 2/12/19 at 8:20 am to JudgeHolden
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No. It will go through the Atchafalaya, where there are few cities and limited infrastructure. And it would leave everything on the Mississippi below the latitude of Simmesport more or less high and dry, and certainly not navigable.
Incorrect, that is just the doomsday scenario peddled to the masses, as the flow and sediment load headed down the Atchafalaya the original course would become a saltwater outlet to the gulf.
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I’m not sure what your point is, but losing ORCS would be an economic disaster for Louisiana and the country as a whole.
lol, drama queen much?
It is immaterial though, the MS will be changing course, we are only delaying it and making it worse when it does happen.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 8:24 am to JudgeHolden
I think that’s the backup plan for when the politicians in BR and NOLA frick up enough.
This is why you don’t taunt companies with “You going to take the river with you?”
This is why you don’t taunt companies with “You going to take the river with you?”
Posted on 2/12/19 at 8:26 am to cave canem
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the original course would become a saltwater outlet to the gulf.
Which would silt up in three days. Do you even hydrology, brah?
Posted on 2/12/19 at 8:36 am to JudgeHolden
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Which would silt up in three days. Do you even hydrology, brah
There would still be a current through there.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 8:39 am to bencoleman
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There would still be a current through there.
Sure. I just don’t think it’s enough to scour.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 8:44 am to nes2010
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You draw your drinking water from the river?
The southern coastal parishes have groundwater that is too saline for drinking water. Surface water is the only other option.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 8:51 am to member12
quote:That's crazy. Killer whales aren't even in the Mississippi River.
claims ORCS is to blame
Posted on 2/12/19 at 9:03 am to JudgeHolden
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Sure. I just don’t think it’s enough to scour
The bottom of the river is below sea level up to natchez.
I don't know how that'll effect things. I believe that it would be many years before the riverbed would start to silt up.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 9:04 am to BottomlandBrew
the most northern structure of Old River is 6 miles from the southern state line of MS/LA.
Let LA Just take all the land up to woodville/centerville.
Let LA Just take all the land up to woodville/centerville.
This post was edited on 2/12/19 at 9:06 am
Posted on 2/12/19 at 9:08 am to nes2010
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You draw your drinking water from the river?
New Orleans does. Heavily treated of course.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 9:13 am to nes2010
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You draw your drinking water from the river
Below Baton Rouge, most of the towns along the river do. The River is the source of drinking water for nearly all of Orleans, Plaquemine, Jefferson, St. Bernard, St. Charles, St. John, and St. James parish. If the river changes course, salt water will flow above new orleans, and that whole region of the state will be without drinking water absent a massive effort to build desalination plants BEFORE the salt water intrudes. Otherwise, the whole water system will have to be replaced due to the corrosive properties of salt water. One would risk cutting off the water supply for over half a million people as well as millions of acres of productive farmland. It would be an ecological disaster.
That’s not even counting all of the roads, towns, and bridges that would be completely destroyed along the Atchafalaya Basin. I-10 would be washed away, the spillway bridge would likely need replacing, Morgan City would be wiped off the face of the earth.
FInally, it is questionable whether the water level in the river south of Baton Rouge would remain deep enough for ocean-going ships. If not, then all of the industry allong that stretch is f$&ked.
This post was edited on 2/12/19 at 9:19 am
Posted on 2/12/19 at 9:15 am to cave canem
quote:are you dumb or just arnt thinking? it takes work to keep the river navigable.
??? So you think that the river is going to stop flowing to the sea?
Posted on 2/12/19 at 9:19 am to member12
Ha, good luck trying to sue the Corps. All they have to do is say, "National Interest" and/or "Public Safety."
Posted on 2/12/19 at 9:21 am to Duke
quote:MS River water really isnt very contaminated. it is actually one of the cleaner water sources. Go read the mercury thread on the OB.
New Orleans does. Heavily treated of course.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 9:21 am to cave canem
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nope Ms is not even in the top 30, not sure where that lie even got started,
That is total welfare expenditures not per capita and not net federal money into the state. Mississippi is the number 3 net taker of federal dollars behind New Mexico and West Virginia.
https://www.moneytips.com/is-your-state-a-net-payer-or-a-net-taker/356
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??? So you think that the river is going to stop flowing to the sea?
Not completely, but substantially to the point that many, if not most docks used for shipping would end up high and dry in short order all along the river. Ultimately impacting not only commercial shipping but but various onloading/offloading at refineries, chemical, and agricultural facilities along the river. Since water levels would fall, the distances upriver that many of the deeper draft vessels go would be impacted substantially as well.
The costs to relocate facilities would be staggering. Perhaps this all needs to happen, but doing it in a haphazard manner would create a potentially disastrous economic disaster that would have ripples throughout the US economy.
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Thank you for highlighting the fact that as bad as the MS education system is we still have LA and a few others to look down on.
Well, there is something to be proud of
But I will point out the following statistics.
Louisiana
% of HS graduates - 83.4% #46
% of Bachelors Degrees - 22.5% #46
% of Bachelors Degrees - 7.7%# 46
Mississippi
% of HS graduates - 82.3% #47
% of Bachelors Degrees - 20.7% #49
% of Bachelors Degrees - 7.7% #46
Both states could stand to do a lot better.
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