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Mississippi sues federal government over river flooding, claims ORCS is to blame
Posted on 2/12/19 at 6:25 am
Posted on 2/12/19 at 6:25 am
Mississippi doesn’t like the Old River Control Structure.
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Mississippi sues federal government over river flooding, claim Louisiana dam is to blame
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The state of Mississippi is suing the federal government for at least $25 million, claiming a federal dam complex in Louisiana that keeps the Mississippi River from changing course is harming state land.
The suit was filed Monday in the Court of Federal Claims by Mississippi officials on behalf of three school districts.
The structure prevents the Mississippi River from shifting its course to the shorter Atchafalaya River in Louisiana. The lawsuit claims the dam causes flooding and dumps silt on public land in Mississippi that generates income for the school districts.
Without the structure, the Mississippi River could shift course away from Baton Rouge and New Orleans. That could cut off the flow of river water altogether, meaning no fresh water for drinking, industrial use, or shipping.
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 6:29 am to member12
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$25 million,
That’s it?
Posted on 2/12/19 at 6:31 am to Dire Wolf
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That’s it?
That’s catastrophic damage for Mississippi.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 6:32 am to Dire Wolf
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$25 million,
That’s it?
You don’t understand. That’s gonna fund the state’s education system for 20 years. That’s a huge deal for them.
Bless their hearts.
This post was edited on 2/12/19 at 6:33 am
Posted on 2/12/19 at 6:34 am to member12
Mississippi is biting the hand that feeds it in more ways than one. Mississippi is the top beneficiary of federal aid. The state also benefits from the economic engine that is the river, and that engine would be destroyed indefinitely if the control structure were gone.
But then again, this is the same state that built apparent income-producing facilities in known flood zones that have existing for more than 50 years.
But then again, this is the same state that built apparent income-producing facilities in known flood zones that have existing for more than 50 years.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 6:56 am to Dire Wolf
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$25 million,
That’s it?
I can only think of Austin Powers. "Why don't you call it the Allan Parsons Project......arse"
This post was edited on 2/12/19 at 6:57 am
Posted on 2/12/19 at 6:58 am to BottomlandBrew
I'm sure mississippi would send their cultcha on a one way bus ride if they could
Posted on 2/12/19 at 7:03 am to Mr.Perfect
Flooding could actually improve some parts of that state.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 7:07 am to member12
They need to read the Flood Control Act of 1928.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 7:10 am to BottomlandBrew
Tired of the “top beneficiaries of the federal govt” argument. If Mississippi and other southern states got the “northern welfare” they wouldn’t need “southern welfare”. You see, northern welfare is research grants, professional contracts, service contracts, military contracts, legal services, etc. all paid by the “ federal government (all of our seized money). Southern welfare is food stamps, housing, midnight basketball etc..... swap those dollars around and see who’s labeled lazy and dumb and racist then !
Posted on 2/12/19 at 7:16 am to BottomlandBrew
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Mississippi is biting the hand that feeds it in more ways than one. Mississippi is the top beneficiary of federal aid.
nope Ms is not even in the top 30, not sure where that lie even got started,
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The state also benefits from the economic engine that is the river, and that engine would be destroyed indefinitely if the control structure were gone.
??? So you think that the river is going to stop flowing to the sea?
It would be best for everyone if the ORCS was to go away, it had one purpose and that was to save NO, it however is going to end up causing many more problems as well as flooding NO before it is all said and done.
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But then again, this is the same state that built apparent income-producing facilities in known flood zones that have existing for more than 50 years.
you went there? really?
Thank you for highlighting the fact that as bad as the MS education system is we still have LA and a few others to look down on.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 7:17 am to Picayuner
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“top beneficiaries of the federal govt”
Well, if the Corps didn’t hold the river back at Old River, Baton Rouge, NOLA, and all the industry between would not exist. The Mississippi would be a small muddy bayou. Pierre Part would be the new New Orleans, and Krotz Springs would be Baton Rouge.
I’d say keeping the Mississippi as a river is a pretty damn big benefit.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 7:21 am to cave canem
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So you think that the river is going to stop flowing to the sea?
No. It will go through the Atchafalaya, where there are few cities and limited infrastructure. And it would leave everything on the Mississippi below the latitude of Simmesport more or less high and dry, and certainly not navigable.
I’m not sure what your point is, but losing ORCS would be an economic disaster for Louisiana and the country as a whole.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 7:21 am to cave canem
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It would be best for everyone if the ORCS was to go away,
No one that depends on a navigable lower river with deep draft ports to send or receive goods would benefit from ORCS being removed.
That includes Mississippi.
This post was edited on 2/12/19 at 7:22 am
Posted on 2/12/19 at 7:24 am to JudgeHolden
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I’m not sure what your point is, but losing ORCS would be an economic disaster for Louisiana and the country as a whole.
Agricultural states (bulk-cargo generators) in particular.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 7:37 am to cave canem
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nope Ms is not even in the top 30, not sure where that lie even got started,
Source.
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??? So you think that the river is going to stop flowing to the sea?
The river would not be navigable south of Natchez for some time after the flow transition took place.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 7:42 am to member12
quote:This is 100% fact.
The state of Mississippi is suing the federal government for at least $25 million, claiming a federal dam complex in Louisiana that keeps the Mississippi River from changing course is harming state land.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 7:47 am to member12
I think The Mississippi baws need to shut the frick up or they come check the boot’s knuckles. River is staying where god intended fixed between levees, locks, and concrete.
Could we have a war between states? I think we could take them easily.
Could we have a war between states? I think we could take them easily.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 7:50 am to JudgeHolden
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losing ORCS would be an economic disaster for Louisiana and the country as a whole.
But thats not the lawsuit here. The suit was if the ORCS negatively affected Mississippi's 16th section land. Which it did.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 7:51 am to member12
It wouldn't 100% divert, there would still be a substantial amount of water flowing down the old channel. I'm from Concordia parish so I'm pretty familiar with the control structure.
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