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re: Mississippi has the top 4th and 8th grade test scores in the nation

Posted on 4/8/25 at 8:28 am to
Posted by oleyeller
Vols, Bitch
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/8/25 at 8:28 am to
quote:

Legitimately curious what adjustments are being made?



As someone who works in a school district in mississippi (not a teacher) i can tell you EXACTLY what it is... and its whats wrong with education today. From the time they step in a classroom, they are being taught how to pass these test. The whole classroom experience now is test prep. Whats on the test, pract test, etc. It puts alota stress on students, as well as teachers. Because why? FUNDING!!!!!! ALL ABOUT THE MONEY. The days of regular curriculum are long gone. Its all about instruction to how these test work and how to pass them. So teachers can keep their jobs, and the school get their funding. Just because scores are high, dont mean kids are actually learning shite
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
40055 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 8:30 am to
quote:

As someone who works in a school district in mississippi (not a teacher) i can tell you EXACTLY what it is... and its whats wrong with education today.


You start with this and proceed to post absolutely nothing about the adjustments made to the scoring.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
17864 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 8:30 am to
Pigs freeze over and Hell flys.
Posted by HeadSlash
TEAM LIVE BADASS - St. GEORGE
Member since Aug 2006
53182 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 8:33 am to
quote:

From the Thread on twitter

Demographically adjusted means

quote:
adjusts for gender, age, race, ethnicity, free and reduced-price lunch status, special-education status, and English-language-learner status


What are the real numbers?
Posted by TheJunction
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2014
1624 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 8:33 am to
So this graph is fake news? Regardless, there’s a few states below us on the blue line scale - WIN!
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
40055 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 8:34 am to
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What are the real numbers?


The blue lines
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
55048 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 8:34 am to
Tate does not control MDE
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
50946 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 8:35 am to
quote:

What does adjusted mean in laymen terms?


our poor kids are smarter than their poor kids
Posted by 6R12
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
10651 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 8:36 am to
Many schools now have a class on how to take the test and even give all the questions over time.
Posted by migui8618
Member since Nov 2023
422 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 8:37 am to
The documentary on how Mississippi and Louisiana forged test scores is gonna be amazing.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
101887 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 8:40 am to
quote:

If you look at the "unadjusted" scores, yikes, New Mexico is be shitte.


NM has a high percentage of Hispanics and Native Americans.

Neither group tests well to say the least.
Posted by DMagic
#ChowderPosse
Member since Aug 2010
48999 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 8:42 am to
No chance. He has the charisma of a potato. Our state superintendent is highly paid and has been earning that check for a while. We also have one of the highest per student spends in the whole country about time it paid off.
Posted by UncleLogger
Freetown
Member since Jan 2008
2965 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 8:43 am to
So Massachusetts has the best scores? Demographic adjusted, lol. What a joke.
Posted by Who_Dat_Tiger
Member since Nov 2015
22802 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 8:45 am to
Adjusted for demographics? What exactly does that mean, does it mean Louisiana and Mississippi have the smartest white kids in the country, smartest black kids in the country? I mean for those 2 states to have the highest “adjusted for demographics” scores in the country it has to mean something to that affect. It’s not like the scores here give pity bonus points to certain states. That wouldn’t make sense
Posted by auwaterfowler
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
2700 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 8:47 am to
What the frick, New Mexico???? Their unadjusted number is unbelievably bad.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
31876 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 8:48 am to
Tons of free points basically. It’s like the demographics outweigh the actual results. Last place in actual scores but first place in demographics = first place? Laughable. I could see some correction to show the schools are doing better than comparable schools in affluent areas when adjusting, but this is insane to say LA schools are better than Massachusetts schools as a whole just because the demographics are worse
Posted by Who_Dat_Tiger
Member since Nov 2015
22802 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 8:50 am to
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Tons of free points basically. It’s like the demographics outweigh the actual results. Last place in actual scores but first place in demographics = first place? Laughable.
can you not read the data? The blue line would indicate the actual results and Mississippi is no where near the lowest even though the number isn’t visible. Clearly there are plenty states with lower actual scores. Where are you getting last place from?
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
31876 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 8:52 am to
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Clearly there are plenty states with lower actual scores.

What do you mean plenty? Yes there’s a couple, but Miss and LA are almost always last in education
Posted by MarsellusWallace
504
Member since Apr 2022
499 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 8:53 am to
Still don't believe it. State is full of people who cannot read and do not know what the different colors of a stop light mean. That doesn't change.
Posted by Who_Dat_Tiger
Member since Nov 2015
22802 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 8:53 am to
Can you not see the ACTUAL unadjusted scores from this data set?

It’s the clearly visible blue line. If you click on the link you can see idk maybe half of the states have lower unadjusted scores than Mississippi
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