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re: Minnesota Cop who Shot Duante Wright charged with 2nd Degree Manslaughter

Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:48 am to
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
28558 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:48 am to
I know whenever I’m faced with trying to arrest a fleeing criminal who is known to use guns and is reaching into his car to either drive away or grab a weapon, I double check the device I pull before firing. Not double checking is clearly negligence.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
94931 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:48 am to
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If your fear of great bodily harm causes you to not think straight, how can you be a cop?

Alot of people who are absolute gumbys in stressful situations are cops and soldiers
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:50 am to
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I double check the device


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Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
14164 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:51 am to
Why wouldn’t doctors who kill somebody due to their negligence be charged with this too?

I don’t like the idea of a police officer going to jail because they made a mistake with somebody actively resisting them. I guarantee this lady did more for her community than that jackass could do in 10 lifetimes.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11476 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:52 am to
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If your fear of great bodily harm causes you to not think straight, how can you be a cop?


When you look at how much these guys/gals are paid can this be any question that it is a huge problem? I don't think we are getting Navy Seal caliber people.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
53730 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:52 am to
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Fair charge, IMO. Her negligence caused the death. She even admitted that she accidentally shot him.

With how it went down, it is a fair charge. If she didn't yell taser and kept her mouth shut about accidentally pulling her gun, she likely doesn't get charged and certainly wouldn't get convicted. You were dealing with a person known to carry a handgun illegally and known to run from police. That person was already resisting arrest, and ended up trying to get back into the vehicle. You have every reason to "fear for your life". If she did less talking, she wouldn't be in such a mess.
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
11286 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:53 am to
It's what she prob deserves as a lesser charge. It's not gonna be enough for the grandstanding professional SJWs in the spotlight tho.
Posted by gadknot
Reality
Member since Jul 2005
37306 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:54 am to
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No doubt she was a dumb bitch but resisting arrest is what sparked it. Both are in the wrong. Duante is as much to blame as the dumb bitch who shot him.




well good thing he got a more severe sentence right?
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134845 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:54 am to
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Question here. Eventhough it was clear she meant to grab and use her taser, would than ultimately matter if the defense can prove or at least give reasonable doubt that she should have feared for her life and used her firearm instead?

I honestly think she would've been far better off if she used her pistol without mistaking it for a taser (which I'm still not sure how you do unless you're beyond under-trained). The suspect had a warrant out for weapons charges (IIRC) and jumped into his car after the cops were trying to cuff him. I think that's a reasonable limit to shoot someone. Unfortunately, her pulling her gun and thinking it was a taser opens up her judgment to an absurd amount of scrutiny.
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
7650 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:55 am to
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her mistake cost someone their life


Maybe "someone" shouldn't have decided to resist arrest. That is what set things in motion. We just need to accept as a given that where people resist and fight the police, it will end in tragedy in a small % of cases. Always been that way. Always will be.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
14164 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:56 am to
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When you look at how much these guys/gals are paid can this be any question that it is a huge problem?
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There needs to be some contributory negligence piece of this to where if you do something stupid that leads to you getting shot that’s taken into account.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:57 am to
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her pulling her gun and thinking it was a taser opens up her judgment to an absurd amount of scrutiny.


her lawyer should argue that she had justification to use deadly force but opted for the Taser
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
53730 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:57 am to
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There needs to be some contributory negligence piece of this to where if you do something stupid that leads to you getting shot that’s taken into account.

That would be expecting people to be accountable for their actions. We don't do that anymore. Blame is a one-way street these days.
Posted by Miketheseventh
Member since Dec 2017
5716 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:58 am to
This will not hold up in a court of law. If she is arrested and then found not guilty I hope she sues the shite out of the city
Posted by Byrdybyrd05
Member since Nov 2014
25701 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:59 am to
She got the right charge
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37461 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:59 am to
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Why wouldn’t doctors who kill somebody due to their negligence be charged with this too?


This is an exceptionally egregious case of negligence. I am not a lawyer nor in the medical field so I don’t know everything but when was the last time negligence like this occurred?

Dr. Death guy in Dallas?
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134845 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 12:00 pm to
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her lawyer should argue that she had justification to use deadly force but opted for the Taser


That would probably be her best option, but there's so much ammo against her from a judgement/competence standpoint.
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26615 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 12:01 pm to
Sorry, but they are overcharging her.

The closest thing would be #1 under those definitions, but she did not create the dangerous situation. Duante the dead guy did.

Make it negligent homicide and I could vote guilty. Her mistake led to his death, but the entire situation was created by him.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134845 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 12:02 pm to
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This is an exceptionally egregious case of negligence. I am not a lawyer nor in the medical field so I don’t know everything but when was the last time negligence like this occurred?


One of her better chances, IMHO, is to throw the city/pd under the bus for not providing adequate training. It's extremely clear that she wasn't competent/prepared enough to deal with that situation.
This post was edited on 4/14/21 at 12:03 pm
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
Ms Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2004
18660 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 12:08 pm to
They aren’t that similar and any good cop can tell the difference
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