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re: “Marijuana is not harmless. The opposite is true and the evidence keeps growing“

Posted on 7/1/25 at 10:44 am to
Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
5488 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 10:44 am to
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I have always seen the argument “it’s less harmful than its alternatives that are legal”


It’s alternatives for what? Meaning what purpose are you assuming for marijuana use?
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
13499 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 11:06 am to
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Good, let’s take the next logical step. If you have a child who eventually develops cancer, and it runs in your family, no coverage, shouldn’t have had the child knowing the risks.


How stupid or high are you? I mean I know weed affects the mind, but you are comparing genetic issues with someone choosing and knowingly shoving a toxin in their body to get high?

some people really are this stupid.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
16708 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 11:09 am to
quote:

“Marijuana is not harmless. The opposite is true and the evidence keeps growing“


You're going to piss off the potheads again.

Don't mess with their bud....
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75120 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 11:10 am to
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I think they legalized it to keep people high and happy or drowsy so that they can do as they wish with no care.

We already had doctors and an ever-growing pile of prescription medications to accomplish that, baw.
Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
Member since Dec 2012
18519 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 11:11 am to
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Though cannabis does not cause the physical dependence of alcohol, it can make users psychologically dependent, leading to irritability, depression, and mood swings if they cut back.


So, like coffee. Big deal.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
39621 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 11:23 am to
Well, except for the moobs and the ED, but let the stoners stone.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
26314 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 11:29 am to
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How stupid or high are you? I mean I know weed affects the mind, but you are comparing genetic issues with someone choosing and knowingly shoving a toxin in their body to get high?


Two primary components to health outcomes are genetics and lifestyle.
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
5213 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 11:31 am to
That’s true. Everyone seems to be on meds or have some sort of mental condition.
Posted by wallowinit
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2006
17705 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 11:33 am to
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the moobs and the ED,

come from (SAD), the Standard American Diet.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
13499 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 11:49 am to
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Two primary components to health outcomes are genetics and lifestyle.


Your point? One is under your control and the other is not. Care to guess which one smoking weed falls under?

Your argument is that since some people have genetic limitations or issues, they should be punished like a potheads who chooses to smoke.

You have some stupid logic.
Posted by Roaad
White Privilege Broker
Member since Aug 2006
83970 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 11:50 am to
What you quoted says "we don't know the risks, so obviously it is bad."

"It isn't physically addictive, but psychologically addictive"

So it is like social media, porn, and Fortnite?

Lol. K.

Sound the alarm.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
59243 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 12:00 pm to
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I don't think anyone (with a brain) disagrees. The argument has always been that it is no worst than alcohol


Not exactly, for a long time (and may possibly still be among the louder advocates) the claim was that it was safer than alcohol. These were the same people who claimed it isn't addictive either (but then try telling a heavy smoker that and they'll lose their shite as if it were an intervention).
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
39621 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 12:04 pm to
Agree.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
39621 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 12:06 pm to
Good grief, if that's true, we're a soft country.


More and more research points to those pills not really helping, long-trrm.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
32879 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 12:06 pm to
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If this is your position, why don't you give up alcohol and start using marijuana?

Because I enjoy both the short term effect of and the process of consuming alcohol more than I do marijuana? I feel like I’m missing something
Posted by DecadePlusLurker
Member since Sep 2016
700 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 12:12 pm to
To the posters who think this is all just a hit piece brought to you by big tobacco, the booze industry, et al., I've personally had cannabis hyperemesis syndrome (miserable is an understatement), and I used to get consistent, bad chest pains and other concerning heart attack/stroke warning signs during periods of heavy pot use. I don't mean, "Oh, I went one toke over the line, got paranoid, and thought I was gonna have a heart attack." I mean in daily life, actively stoned or not.

I was hospitalized twice for CHS and was in so much pain that they gave me morphine.

Since going from a heavy daily user to a dabbler at best, I don't have those issues. TIFWIW, but CHS, heart problems, and mental health issues from pot use aren't just DARE fear mongering.
This post was edited on 7/1/25 at 12:15 pm
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
26314 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 12:16 pm to
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Your point? One is under your control and the other is not. Care to guess which one smoking weed falls under?


People with genetic predispositions to disease know it before they have kids. It’s under their parents control, maybe just make it illegal for those people to procreate?

quote:

Your argument is that since some people have genetic limitations or issues, they should be punished like a potheads who chooses to smoke. You have some stupid logic.


No my arguement is that health outcomes are a complex mixture of genetics, choices, environment, luck etc. you stupid fricks only want to people for certain choices. The problem is the collective system we use, if you see it as a problem. There are people who smokes weed who never develop cancer etc and some that don’t who do, we should just treat everyone or make everyone pay their own freight in full. Doctors can’t really even tell you specifically what “caused” a certain thing, at best they can say such and such may have or likely contributedl
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70462 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 12:21 pm to
Being harmful does not justify it being illegal.
Posted by BilltheTiger
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2013
1111 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 12:28 pm to
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The argument has always been that it is no worst than alcohol

And that argument would be incorrect for many reasons. For one, small amounts of some alcoholic drinks, such as wine, show some health benefits. But more obviously, most people that consume alcohol do not do so to get drunk every time they drink it. A person smoking weed do so for one reason, to get high.
Posted by sta4ever
Member since Aug 2014
17662 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 12:28 pm to
Sounds like you were really hitting on the fentanyl/meth with those symptoms.
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