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re: Mandeville to Madisonville traffic is out of control these days

Posted on 5/16/21 at 2:18 pm to
Posted by white perch
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Posted on 5/16/21 at 2:18 pm to
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Hammond right now and I might see a dozen cars


All the ghetto trash in Hammond hasn’t woken up yet.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/16/21 at 2:22 pm to
Big wreck on 12 a couple hours ago. Traffic is fricked all through Mandeville
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 5/16/21 at 2:46 pm to
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All the ghetto trash in Hammond hasn’t woken up yet.

could be
if having trash around (that I never see) is the trade off for not spending half my day in traffic, gimme the trash. Stay out of Walmart and dollar general and they may as well be invisible

those who know, know
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 5/16/21 at 3:02 pm to
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All the ghetto trash in Hammond hasn’t woken up yet.


I rather like Hammond.

Between there and Ponchatoula, there are quite a few good people.

His statements seem pretty spot on...and I think Mandeville is very nice.

The traffic in West St. Tammany sucks arse.

There are waaaay too many apartment complexes and strip malls.

Large scale subdivisions are totally fricking up the drainage plans.

Private school is a common thing in Hammond.

Mandeville is waaaay past being a sleepy little bedroom community.

I gave you a very honest assessment before you moved here. As stated, I don’t see him being dishonest. Opinionated maybe, dishonest...not really.

West St. Tammany needs to get its shite together.
Posted by tigerpawl
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Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 5/16/21 at 3:25 pm to
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The traffic in West St. Tammany sucks arse.
Nothing new. They've been bitching about traffic in the Mandeville/Madisonville area for almost 30 years. The politicians need to stop playing small-ball.
Posted by Ba Ba Boooey
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Posted on 5/16/21 at 3:31 pm to
I’ve often wondered how many posters lived in my hood
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 5/16/21 at 3:36 pm to
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Madisonville


I don’t remember a traffic issue in Madisonville until after Katrina. Then again, I remember water skiing on the Tchefuncte and not worrying about some asshat knee-capping me with his boat. I guess I’m showing my age.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 5/16/21 at 3:38 pm to
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just looked at the traffic map app out of curiosity
gridlock both north and south bound on 190 to westbound I12


Absurd.

I usually don't see traffic like that until around Christmas time because of the shoppers.

And I don't even live over there. My parents do and I work over there a couple of times a week.
Posted by StealthCalais11
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Posted on 5/16/21 at 3:40 pm to
I think we can all agree that Slidell is the butthole of the eastern I-12 corridor.
Posted by lsufan9193969700
Madisonville
Member since Sep 2003
55838 posts
Posted on 5/16/21 at 3:52 pm to
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these days


If you mean 5+ years, yes! These days....
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 5/16/21 at 3:54 pm to
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Slidell is the butthole of the eastern I-12 corridor.

universally accepted
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 5/16/21 at 5:01 pm to
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This should have been slowed years ago until infrastructure could catch up, but it is still WIDE OPEN.


LADOTD summed up: the only way to get them to actually move on a major project is for it to be a few decades too late (yes, this goes the interstate as well LINK). See also: the Baton Rouge loop.
Posted by Klondikekajun
Member since Jun 2020
1436 posts
Posted on 5/16/21 at 5:31 pm to
LADOTD is certainly not visionary or proactive, but what gauls me is the St Tammany elected officials keeping the petal to the metal allowing new high density growth knowing full well that infrastructure can’t handle the current situation, let alone more.
Until all of the Council are in fear of their jobs, nothing will change.
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22628 posts
Posted on 5/16/21 at 6:27 pm to
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I don’t remember a traffic issue in Madisonville until after Katrina.
May 13, 1994

TOWN TO SEEK TRAFFIC STUDY - MADISONVILLE Times-Picayune, The (New Orleans, LA) - May 13, 1994 | Times-Picayune, The (New Orleans, LA) | MICHAEL S. ARNOLD St. Tammany bureau | Page B1

With traffic from new subdivisions north and west of town clogging its streets, Madisonville -population 650 - has decided to ask the state for solutions. Mayor Peter Gitz said at Wednesday'stown meeting that he will ask legislators to push for a Department of Transportation andDevelopment study of the town's traffic congestion. "Our traffic problem on Madisonville streets isvery high, and I don't know what we can do," Alderman Jean Pelloat said. "At the intersection of(Louisiana) 21 and 22 there's a horrible problem getting out in the morning." The problem likely willworsen as new developments add several hundred homes to the area and high school studentssouth of Interstate 12 switch from Covington High to Mandeville High in the fall of 1995. Most ofthe students presumably will travel through Madisonville on Louisiana 21 and 22 toward the schoolon West Causeway Approach. Gitz predicted jams around the Tchefuncte River bridge on Louisiana22, which opens every half hour when river traffic warrants. Dozens of drivers wait impatiently oneach side of the bridge when it opens during rush hours. "That bridge opening could makeeverybody late for (high) school," Gitz said. Aldermen said they feared 18-wheelers could run intothe ditches along Louisiana 21 near Madisonville Junior High. Warning signs posted in the middle ofthe road between 7-9 a.m. and 2-4 p.m. leave less room and force larger vehicles toward theshoulders. Another trouble spot is by the parish library at the corner of St. John and First streets."It's horrible," resident Dot Chatellier said. "Some child's going to get run over." Traffic throughtown is especially heavy on weekends, she said.
This post was edited on 5/16/21 at 6:49 pm
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
46225 posts
Posted on 5/16/21 at 6:45 pm to

the problem now is all day every day

and it is due to the Katrina influx.
I sold my house in heritage heights in ten minutes from when it went live on the MLS, full ask, in mid 2006. I sold it for almost double what I paid in 1995. couple that displaced population with rapid overdevelopment and you get what you have now...a daily clusterfrick.

when I left you could hardly get out of my subdivision due to the cut thru traffic on 59. I can’t imagine what it’s like now
This post was edited on 5/16/21 at 6:47 pm
Posted by lsut2005
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Member since Jul 2009
2679 posts
Posted on 5/16/21 at 6:51 pm to
Mandeville, Madisonville and Covington area is a suburb of New Orleans. Hammond is Hammond...
Posted by Btrtigerfan
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/16/21 at 6:55 pm to


This is a great idea, but we're going to need to commission JBE's brother in law to do a 4 year impact study before the contract can be let for JB James construction.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
41754 posts
Posted on 5/16/21 at 7:09 pm to
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tigerpawl


I stand corrected. I honestly still don’t remember it being a major issue (it obviously was, I just don’t recall it being that overwhelming). Just out of curiosity, do you remember which subdivisions were built in 1994?

This post was edited on 5/16/21 at 7:15 pm
Posted by Fat Man
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Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 5/16/21 at 7:34 pm to
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find it mind blowing that the entire Mandeville/Covington region was basically built on 2 main roads. They never foresaw that would be a problem?
I recall that the parish paid for a study called St. Tammany 2025 that was completed in about 2002. It was promptly ignored.


Actually, it led to a comprehensive plan for the Parish on "what it should look like in 2025". It was implemented. Katrina migration wiped it out in 24 months. We were very fortunate to it have in place.

Two things have really led to the continued population growth: 1) The New Orleans second wave. The people who "were never coming" are moving as fast-arse as possible. 2) The post-Katrina collapse of Baton Rouge. None of us saw BR devolving the way it did and people seeking shelter in St. Tammany's school system.

Sidenote: Taking Clause of the 5th Amendment makes prohibiting the development of property unconstitutional. The Parish Council accepts the new developments because otherwise they get sued and they lose. You can temporarily put a moratorium, but courts frown upon regs that inhibit "enjoyment of your property." This dates back to the founding of the Merica.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
41754 posts
Posted on 5/16/21 at 7:50 pm to
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You can temporarily put a moratorium, but courts frown upon regs that inhibit "enjoyment of your property." This dates back to the founding of the Merica.


I am pretty sure the founding fathers didn’t have “Section 8.”

I have seen the “Westbank,” and I predict that what we we see over there now is the future of West St. Tammany. Unfettered, “high density“ development will not end well imho.
This post was edited on 5/16/21 at 8:13 pm
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