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re: Louisiana homeowners insurance market “unraveling.”

Posted on 4/2/22 at 4:29 pm to
Posted by Swazla
Member since Jul 2016
1932 posts
Posted on 4/2/22 at 4:29 pm to
I live in S Louisiana but north of I-10. I just checked my new rate vs last year. It went up almost $25.00 for the year. That's it. I have no idea why. State Farm.
Posted by LeGrosChat
Bangladesh
Member since Feb 2016
663 posts
Posted on 4/2/22 at 4:29 pm to
quote:

What many fail to understand is.... the "One call that's all" gets paid by someone. Attorneys sucking up 30-40% of the claim settlements comes at the expense of their clients or the insurance companies. If it falls on the insurance company, they pass that on to the customer.


Bingo, when lawyers can charge 30-40% you will continue to have premium increases. The legislative body is full of attorneys, no help there. Billboards every mile on the highways. A little fender bender turns into $1000 property damage, but results in $40,000 for pain suffering. Happens everyday in Louisiana. Recently happened to me in a parking lot. Six people in vehicle. They have more impacts to their body driving on the crappy roads here, than the little bump in a parking lot.
Posted by NOLAVOL16
Member since Jan 2022
898 posts
Posted on 4/2/22 at 4:42 pm to
Yup. Lots of costs have gotten completely out of control because of the general view of “don’t worry, insurance will pay for it”. Build your house in a flood zone, or frequent wildfire zone, or have tons of unnecessary medical tests done, or run to the doctor for a stuffy nose? No worries, that’s what “insurance” is for.

If a jury had to look a defendant in the eye and say your one time mistake resulting in the minor inconvenience of the plaintiff is worth the next 20 years of your income, there would be a lot fewer judgements like that. But no, the jury sees “insurance” as a faceless bottomless pit of money to be doled out like they’re Robin Hood. Never understanding or caring that THEY are paying those judgements through higher premiums.
Posted by ChickennBiscuits
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2019
361 posts
Posted on 4/2/22 at 8:17 pm to
So we’re really satisfied with the government option? Very interesting.
Posted by KLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
11146 posts
Posted on 4/2/22 at 8:29 pm to
I just got my renewal today and I live in Central (EBR).

It went up $75 this year hardly doubled so must be people south I-10

In a good note car insurance for me, wife, and 20 year old college student dropped $470 every 6 months!
This post was edited on 4/2/22 at 8:32 pm
Posted by donRANDOMnumbers
Hub City
Member since Nov 2006
17456 posts
Posted on 4/2/22 at 9:33 pm to
you have natural disasters, distracted driving, and Gordon/JBE to thank for this
Posted by LA_KY
'Merica
Member since Mar 2018
177 posts
Posted on 4/3/22 at 2:07 pm to
Clearly problems in LA right now, but looking to Florida doesn’t work this time - Florida’s insurance market is a big mess right now too:

Florida Ins market continues to spiral

No shortage of coverage of FL market

Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
25461 posts
Posted on 4/3/22 at 3:01 pm to
quote:

GEICO also stopped writing commercial auto in LA across the board. They were tired of the litigation atmosphere here.


Gordon got it done.. Er, actually I guess he got them to say 'we're done'. Either way, thanks for running more competition out of our already loser state, you worthless ambulance chasing frick.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41063 posts
Posted on 4/3/22 at 4:51 pm to
quote:

Allowing people to sue insurance companies directly without first obtaining a judgement against the actual driver (or property owner etc.) just erodes this further by framing the lawsuit as a dispute between an injured party and a faceless insurance company that only exists to cover these types of losses, instead of a dispute between two drivers who got into an accident.


You are not wrong.

The issue is we have a country where 57% of people pay no income tax, BECAUSE THEY DON'T MAKE ENOUGH MONEY. So... what percentage of Americans do you think could afford a 20K judgement against them? 10% maybe?

If Driver A's insurance company is ultimately footing the bill, they are going to want to be part of the conversation in determining how much is owed.

This is not a problem that is unsolvable. Every state deal with this. But just about every state has a better way to deal with it than LA does.

Posted by cyarrr
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2017
4239 posts
Posted on 11/7/24 at 7:52 am to
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Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
60680 posts
Posted on 11/7/24 at 7:56 am to
honestly, i'm glad i didn't buy a house here about 5 years ago when i was seriously considering it
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
23922 posts
Posted on 11/7/24 at 7:57 am to

I moved from Harahan, and Louisiana, last year.

My last policy was around $3400/year for a small house, with another $600/year for flood. There was only one insurer my agent found during the last search they ran.

Moved to MS and paid $1600/year for a larger house. No flood required.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
39640 posts
Posted on 11/7/24 at 8:02 am to
quote:

The value of homes has probably doubled in the last 10 years. The cost of repairs has more than doubled because of the cost of goods being out of control due to inflation.

Inflation has a snowball effect throughout industries and it is just getting started. We got fricked so bad by these politicians printing money. They all need to be hanged


Excellent post.

If you paid 250 for your house 10 years ago and it's now worth 500, why would you not expect insurance costs to go up proportionally ?

Go price wood, windows, shingles and labor.

Costs are crazy now.
Posted by DevilDagNS
Member since Dec 2017
2976 posts
Posted on 11/7/24 at 8:03 am to
Excessive litigation is not the problem.

Sincerely,

The plaintiff bar.
Posted by fischd1
Mandeville
Member since Dec 2007
3439 posts
Posted on 11/7/24 at 8:10 am to
I elevated my house 5 feet in the air and did not get a break on my flood insurance. What a joke.
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
21355 posts
Posted on 11/7/24 at 8:12 am to
Some guys who made bank betting the subprime mortgage economy would fail are now pitching investing in real estate in areas less effected by climate change. They predict that sunbelt and coastal homes and commercial buildings are soon going to start to lose value due to increased hurricanes, increased flood and HO insurance premiums, and such.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111478 posts
Posted on 11/7/24 at 8:13 am to
quote:

you paid 250 for your house 10 years ago and it's now worth 500, why would you not expect insurance costs to go up proportionally ?
Thats not how it works

If I’m still only insuring 250k why should it go up just because my house went up in value? I’m not insuring any higher value, I’m still only insuring the 250k
Posted by CDUBTX
TX
Member since Mar 2022
406 posts
Posted on 11/7/24 at 9:16 am to
quote:

Thats not how it works If I’m still only insuring 250k why should it go up just because my house went up in value? I’m not insuring any higher value, I’m still only insuring the 250k


Here’s what happened:

First, most hurricane claims are not a total loss. That being said, let’s say 10% of your home was damaged due to a storm. 10 years ago maybe that cost $25,000. Today, it costs $50,000. Even though you haven’t increased your total insurable value, the risk to your insurer has increased significantly.
Posted by Bob Sacamano 89
Member since Apr 2023
186 posts
Posted on 11/7/24 at 9:30 am to
Correct, but It’s also.. the lawyers
Posted by Joehat
New Orleans West
Member since Jun 2011
1099 posts
Posted on 11/7/24 at 9:35 am to
quote:

Some guys who made bank betting the subprime mortgage economy would fail are now pitching investing in real estate in areas less effected by climate change. They predict that sunbelt and coastal homes and commercial buildings are soon going to start to lose value due to increased hurricanes, increased flood and HO insurance premiums, and such.



Where’d you see this info from? I’m interested, please post the source. Thanks
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