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Posted on 4/7/20 at 12:15 pm to Ignignot
quote:I'm just guessing. But looking at the data the past couple of days, it's not unreasonable to think.
hard to wonder what type of backlog exists, strange numbers today with highest daily new death total yet extreme drop in vents used
Posted on 4/7/20 at 12:16 pm to Salmon
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hospitalizations are the only bad number
Yeah and that one seems like an outlier based on trends. Maybe a backlog somewhere. New cases seems to have hit a plateau. Vents looking great. Death stats lag, but we knew that already. That number is more of an indictment of where we were a couple weeks ago, not where we are now.
Still seem to be at a peak or starting to come down. Just hope that hospitalized number looks better tomorrow.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 12:16 pm to Ignignot
Read the hemoglobin thread on the poli board. Vents may be treating it wrong.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 12:16 pm to Ignignot
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strange numbers today with highest daily new death total yet extreme drop in vents used
We know these numbers aren’t real time, but an increase in deaths will generally mean a decrease in vent usage. Looks like less people are requiring vents so when someone on one dies, there isn’t a “new” person getting put on one.
The hospitalization number isn’t good, but vent usage dropping is very good
Posted on 4/7/20 at 12:18 pm to JohnnyKilroy
Is the vent drastic drop related to the drastic jump in deaths?
That may be a stupid question
That may be a stupid question
Posted on 4/7/20 at 12:18 pm to Neauxla_Tiger
I’m wondering if the extremely low hospital numbers we’ve seen lately was due to poor reporting and they finally caught up
Posted on 4/7/20 at 12:18 pm to Tigerbait357
Now that we are into it a ways, are we still Italy? Or has that one fallen by the wayside?
Posted on 4/7/20 at 12:18 pm to tgrbaitn08
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Is the vent drastic drop related to the drastic jump in deaths?
It’s possible.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 12:19 pm to SloaneRanger
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Now that we are into it a ways, are we still Italy? Or has that one fallen by the wayside?
No we shut down earlier than them so we have largely avoided the collapse they experienced. You’re welcome.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 12:20 pm to tgrbaitn08
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Is the vent drastic drop related to the drastic jump in deaths?
obviously people dying is going to free up vents
but the positive news is that there are not a bunch of people waiting to immediately get on those now free vents
Posted on 4/7/20 at 12:21 pm to TigersSEC2010
Looks like the projection was a little low.


Posted on 4/7/20 at 12:21 pm to tgrbaitn08
quote:
Is the vent drastic drop related to the drastic jump in deaths?
That may be a stupid question
Probably strongly correlated, but as another poster suggested, it's encouraging that all the new cases (and the jump in hospitalized numbers) didn't offset the deaths. My positive spin is that treatment and early detection has gotten better, so we have the older cases dying, but the newer ones have much better outlooks and thus not replacing the older ones on the vents and we're getting better recovery rates.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 12:21 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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No we shut down earlier than them so we have largely avoided the collapse they experienced. You’re welcome.
The models accounted for all of this in the beginning.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 12:22 pm to tgrbaitn08
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Is the vent drastic drop related to the drastic jump in deaths?
If we were still on the growth side of the peak, we would still be seeing increases in ventilation because serious cases would more than replace deaths.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 12:23 pm to tgrbaitn08
quote:
Is the vent drastic drop related to the drastic jump in deaths?
That may be a stupid question
In part, yes. If the data were 100%, completely accurate, then the # of people that required vents who didn't on the previous day is 26. 26 that went on to vents - 70 that passed away = net -44 requiring vents.
That's almost certainly a good sign - the raw #'s of people who were getting moved to vents absent deaths was a lot higher than 26 per day the previous week. It looks like daily intubation is down quite a bit from 5 - 10 days ago.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 12:23 pm to LSU5508
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Treatment appears to be working.
Are docs using hte meds in Louisiana in hospital only or also on those staying home who are positive?
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