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re: Lesbians: 'We're being pressured into sex by some trans women'
Posted on 10/30/21 at 11:37 am to madamsquirrel
Posted on 10/30/21 at 11:37 am to madamsquirrel
quote:Really only happened for a really infinitesimally small subsect of US society.
the free love of the 60s and 70s
And even there, gays and poofs were often abused and murdered.
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Posted on 10/30/21 at 11:38 am to fr33manator
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fr33manator
Classic, and it's been too long since I watched that crazy fricking cowboy ride that bomb into oblivion...
Which could be a really awesome euphemism if we wanted to give it any thought
This post was edited on 10/30/21 at 11:39 am
Posted on 10/30/21 at 11:40 am to Roaad
It was rampant and continued into the 80s
Posted on 10/30/21 at 11:40 am to Roaad
quote:
Really only happened for a really infinitesimally small subsect of US society.
And even there, gays and poofs were often abused and murdered.
Yep, the counterculture of the 60's was shady and violent. Lots of kids disappeared along the way. My dad was friends with some of these types, they were very interesting for me, even at a young age.
Posted on 10/30/21 at 11:41 am to UndercoverBryologist
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Not a gonadal steroid study, but feminization of male rat fetuses has been linked to opioids.
Did you read past the title or abstract?
Hell...it’s in the abstract. “Endogenic opioids.” These are things produced in the body, usually by the brain...shite like endorphin and dopamine. They aren’t talking about heroin.
The study gave the pregnant females a drug that reduces the craving for opioids...or didn’t give it to them...and then intentionally stressed them out by immobilizing them.
I mean, it’s interesting, but I’m not sure it’s strong support for you position concerning transgenderism.
Seems like it might go more towards homosexuality, though... which is what’s in the article’s intro. If you’re arguing homosexuality is something that happens because of various factors in utero, I’ll agree with you.
This post was edited on 10/30/21 at 12:03 pm
Posted on 10/30/21 at 11:43 am to GRTiger
quote:
The best part of your pity party is this is the elevated and enlightened post I initially responded to.
Which was in response to:
quote:
Oh shut up ffs
So yeah, I would say even my post that you quoted was "elevated and enlightened" by comparison to what I was replying to
Anyway, not looking for pity. TD has just become so fricking boring. Feel free to insult me, but at least make it interesting. Calling me gay for like half a dozen pages is boring as frick.
Posted on 10/30/21 at 11:43 am to 777Tiger
quote:it was fricking awesome
It was rampant and continued into the 80s
AIDS was a gay thing, they had shots and pills for everything else
and I was me,, chicks dug that
Posted on 10/30/21 at 11:46 am to Joshjrn
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and that baffles me as well
They think trans women should be seen exactly the same as biological women and vice versa for trans men. They think seeing any difference is transphobic. It’s basically the same argument as what is presented in the OP and my post under it about not wanting to sleep with trans people.
Posted on 10/30/21 at 11:47 am to Sasquatch Smash
quote:
Sasquatch Smash
My overall point being that the chemical (opioid or steroid) is the determinant on brain development, not the binary distinction between “testes” and “ovaries.”
Opioids and steroids can vary on a continuous scale, producing a spectrum of brain types and hence behavior phenotypes.
This post was edited on 10/30/21 at 11:48 am
Posted on 10/30/21 at 11:50 am to 1BamaRTR
quote:
They think trans women should be seen exactly the same as biological women and vice versa for trans men.
And they want to control how you can think regarding the issue. There is no tolerance for deviation.
Posted on 10/30/21 at 11:50 am to Joshjrn
quote:
TD has just become so fricking boring
What era of TD would have allowed you to discuss the merits of gender fluidity while occasionally telling people to suck dicks without catching some shite?
Posted on 10/30/21 at 11:50 am to 1BamaRTR
quote:Exactly.
They think trans women should be seen exactly the same as biological women and vice versa for trans men. They think seeing any difference is transphobic. It’s basically the same argument as what is presented in the OP and my post under it about not wanting to sleep with trans people.
It is the view that the mental state should define the physical reality, therefore conflating the physical and non-physical, not separating them.
Posted on 10/30/21 at 11:51 am to UndercoverBryologist
quote:
My overall point being that the chemical (opioid or steroid) is the determinant on brain development, not the binary distinction between “testes” and “ovaries.”
Opioids and steroids can vary on a continuous scale, producing a spectrum of brain types and hence behavior phenotypes.
And none of that makes a man a woman or a woman a man.
Posted on 10/30/21 at 11:53 am to 1BamaRTR
quote:
They think trans women should be seen exactly the same as biological women and vice versa for trans men. They think seeing any difference is transphobic. It’s basically the same argument as what is presented in the OP and my post under it about not wanting to sleep with trans people.
Oh I understand it; I simply find it baffling. We've gone from empowering people's sexual preferences to believing no one should have sexual preferences. I'm a cis-gendered heterosexual male. If I say I prefer women with big/small/whatever breasts, no one bats an eye. But I say that I prefer women with vaginas and all of a sudden there's a percentage of the population who wants to blow a gasket over that?
Some "progressives" have missed the runway and flown straight into the "regressive" territory they claim to loathe so much.
Posted on 10/30/21 at 11:55 am to fr33manator
quote:
Someone can decide to be an Elvis impersonator. Dress up like Elvis, try to sing like Elvis, adopt his mannerisms.
And we can acknowledge that they are a general facsimile of Elvis. That’s fine, we can all enjoy that.
But, no matter what they do, they aren’t ACTUALLY Elvis.
They can’t really be Elvis no matter how much they try. They can get plastic surgery, hair plugs, even wear his exact clothes.
But they still aren’t Elvis.
These Trans-fascists not only want you to address them as Elvis, but demand you BELIEVE they are Elvis.
It’s messed up
That is an exceptionally good explanation.
Posted on 10/30/21 at 11:55 am to GRTiger
quote:
What era of TD would have allowed you to discuss the merits of gender fluidity while occasionally telling people to suck dicks without catching some shite?
Again, I don't mind catching shite. I mind how boring the shite is. Though I will admit that I'm still genuinely surprised at the shite I've caught on this thread, being my first post is, at least substantially, one that is in line with TD groupthink. It's not like I came out in support of the premise of the OP.
And people on TD have been telling each other to eat dicks for literally my entire time on here
Posted on 10/30/21 at 11:56 am to goofball
First, phobia means "the fear of". Not liking something does not make you afraid of it. Saying not liking trans makes you transphobic is insane. Words have meanings.
Saying I like gumbo does not mean I like doughnuts and chocolate milk. Liking doughnuts and chocolate milk has words to describe that, too.
No matter how much someone cries that words mean things they do not, it does not change the meaning.
Maybe we should take all special interest groups that like to whinge constantly, give them an AR, parachute them into Afghanistan, and see how long it takes them to love the USA again.
Saying I like gumbo does not mean I like doughnuts and chocolate milk. Liking doughnuts and chocolate milk has words to describe that, too.
No matter how much someone cries that words mean things they do not, it does not change the meaning.
Maybe we should take all special interest groups that like to whinge constantly, give them an AR, parachute them into Afghanistan, and see how long it takes them to love the USA again.
Posted on 10/30/21 at 11:58 am to fr33manator
quote:Great analogy
Someone can decide to be an Elvis impersonator. Dress up like Elvis, try to sing like Elvis, adopt his mannerisms.
And we can acknowledge that they are a general facsimile of Elvis. That’s fine, we can all enjoy that.
But, no matter what they do, they aren’t ACTUALLY Elvis.
They can’t really be Elvis no matter how much they try. They can get plastic surgery, hair plugs, even wear his exact clothes.
But they still aren’t Elvis.
Posted on 10/30/21 at 12:00 pm to goofball
Logical arguments with these people are pointless. Standard response whenever confronted by any trans person:
“You really should seek psychological help.”
These people are crazy and need to be treated as such.
“You really should seek psychological help.”
These people are crazy and need to be treated as such.
This post was edited on 10/30/21 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 10/30/21 at 12:06 pm to 1BamaRTR
They are culturally appropriating the suffix "-phobia" which means "fear".
These psychos are just making up their own language and standards without anyone's consent.
These psychos are just making up their own language and standards without anyone's consent.
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