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Lawyers of The OT, I need help understanding verbiage in Jayden’s Cease & Desist letter
Posted on 8/18/26 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 8/18/26 at 12:44 pm
I posted this on the Rant as well, but I figured I would see what the esteemed folks of The OT had to say as well.
My questions are below the images.
Here is the actual C&D letter from his attorney…..
And below are the results of a quick google search that gives a pretty good overview of how copyright laws and NIL intersect….
My question in general is, did LSU violate the NIL agreement?
I ask because in the letter from the attorney, it states basically that according to the agreement with Jayden and the Athletic Department, LSU was only allowed to use his name/ image/ likeness for 180 days post termination or post expiration grace period for continued use of his NIL, which has obviously expired.
However, my confusion comes when you get into the copyright aspect. LSU is the copyright owner since they are the creators. The search seems to admittedly, get into a gray area when it comes to the usage. It states….
I would assume that up until Jayden found out that the number was given out, that he had given “contractual authorization” since there was never an issue until now.
The very last section of my search states two things. Number 1….
To me, this means that he has zero rights to any game footage or produced clips or images as LSU is the copyright owner.
But the second part seems to contradict that. This seems like the “gray area” the search mentioned….
My understanding is that this is where it would revert back to that “contractual authorization” that states the user must have authorization from the athlete. Which again, I would assume LSU had since there was never any issue until now.
My questions are below the images.
Here is the actual C&D letter from his attorney…..
And below are the results of a quick google search that gives a pretty good overview of how copyright laws and NIL intersect….
My question in general is, did LSU violate the NIL agreement?
I ask because in the letter from the attorney, it states basically that according to the agreement with Jayden and the Athletic Department, LSU was only allowed to use his name/ image/ likeness for 180 days post termination or post expiration grace period for continued use of his NIL, which has obviously expired.
However, my confusion comes when you get into the copyright aspect. LSU is the copyright owner since they are the creators. The search seems to admittedly, get into a gray area when it comes to the usage. It states….
quote:
While LSU retains basic copyright over the images and videos taken of games played on their property, legal experts note that using a former player's likeness for active commercial endorsement, merchandising, or marketing without active contractual authorization or a valid NIL agreement creates a separate legal gray area.
I would assume that up until Jayden found out that the number was given out, that he had given “contractual authorization” since there was never an issue until now.
The very last section of my search states two things. Number 1….
quote:
If an athlete attempts to sue a school or network simply for broadcasting or distributing past game footage as standard sports history, federal copyright law typically preempts (overrides) state publicity laws. Courts rule that the broadcast itself is a protected creative work, meaning athletes cannot use NIL laws to censor the historical record of games they played.
To me, this means that he has zero rights to any game footage or produced clips or images as LSU is the copyright owner.
But the second part seems to contradict that. This seems like the “gray area” the search mentioned….
quote:
However, the moment that historical footage is attached to a jersey sale, advertisement, or paid subscription promo, the boundary shifts back to protecting the player's likeness.
My understanding is that this is where it would revert back to that “contractual authorization” that states the user must have authorization from the athlete. Which again, I would assume LSU had since there was never any issue until now.
Posted on 8/18/26 at 12:45 pm to im4LSU
Didn't like the answers you got on tRant?
Posted on 8/18/26 at 12:46 pm to im4LSU
Why does it matter?
You are neither party. You have none of the copyrights in question.
You are neither party. You have none of the copyrights in question.
Posted on 8/18/26 at 12:47 pm to im4LSU
We need to unban SFP so he can weigh in on this
Posted on 8/18/26 at 12:49 pm to LNCHBOX
Frick the NCAA, NIL & all these primadonna p*ssies like JDaniels. It’s all been ruined with quickness
Posted on 8/18/26 at 12:50 pm to Ingeniero
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We need to unban SFP
No, just no. This place has been so nice since our resident verbose barrister was put in time out.
Posted on 8/18/26 at 12:56 pm to im4LSU
Not a lawyer and don’t even have a clue what the correct answer is, but this is one hell of a deep dive.
Who knows man. CFB is so monumentally screwed sideways. Maybe the Daniels family/camp/momma has a case.
And if they win, they’re still asshoe and CFB is still a dumpster fire.
Who knows man. CFB is so monumentally screwed sideways. Maybe the Daniels family/camp/momma has a case.
And if they win, they’re still asshoe and CFB is still a dumpster fire.
Posted on 8/18/26 at 1:09 pm to im4LSU
No legal advice here.
My uneducated guess is that LSU cannot sell jerseys with Daniels' name without getting his permission and paying him. LSU can assign the number 5 jersey to anyone, however it wants. Number 5 is not Jayden's name, image or likeness. It is a numbered jersey. Game audio and video footage is not owned by individual players. As for Daniels' name, he does not own that for all purposes. LSU can list Daniels as a former player. His attorney's assertion that LSU cannot even list his name as having played football at LSU sounds like complete BS to me, and would be new law.
I note the absence of any citation to specific law or contract language.
My uneducated guess is that LSU cannot sell jerseys with Daniels' name without getting his permission and paying him. LSU can assign the number 5 jersey to anyone, however it wants. Number 5 is not Jayden's name, image or likeness. It is a numbered jersey. Game audio and video footage is not owned by individual players. As for Daniels' name, he does not own that for all purposes. LSU can list Daniels as a former player. His attorney's assertion that LSU cannot even list his name as having played football at LSU sounds like complete BS to me, and would be new law.
I note the absence of any citation to specific law or contract language.
Posted on 8/18/26 at 1:16 pm to im4LSU
That fact that Daniels had a law firm without an actual website and only 60 LinkedIn followers issue this letter shows how poorly he thought this out.
Posted on 8/18/26 at 1:19 pm to mylsuhat
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Why does it matter?
You are neither party. You have none of the copyrights in question.
Because I’ve been in the hospital for 3 months waiting for a heart transplant and I get bored, frick face.
If you didn’t have anything but some bullshite to add, why did you click on the thread, is the better question. Just felt like being a dick?
This post was edited on 8/18/26 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 8/18/26 at 1:20 pm to im4LSU
ETA: do they let you have a PlayStation in the hospital
This post was edited on 8/18/26 at 1:29 pm
Posted on 8/18/26 at 1:23 pm to im4LSU
quote:No, because I truly don't understand why the legalese between others matters
If you didn’t have anything but some bullshite to add, why did you click on the thread, is the better question. Just felt like being a dick?
I hope you get the miracle you are hoping for
Posted on 8/18/26 at 1:23 pm to Ingeniero
quote:
We need to unban SFP so he can weigh in on this
He’s exactly who came to mind, but I wasn’t going to hold my breath on his time out being lifted
Posted on 8/18/26 at 1:23 pm to im4LSU
Damn man, I will say a prayer for you
God Bless
God Bless
Posted on 8/18/26 at 1:24 pm to im4LSU
It's mostly bullshite.
You think LSU has written permission and pays every former athlete that is listed in record books, game programs, highlight reels, etc.
frick no.
They can absolutely show his highlights, use his photos and achievements in promotions, etc. LSU owns those. Jayden would need permission from LSU to use them.
You think LSU has written permission and pays every former athlete that is listed in record books, game programs, highlight reels, etc.
frick no.
They can absolutely show his highlights, use his photos and achievements in promotions, etc. LSU owns those. Jayden would need permission from LSU to use them.
Posted on 8/18/26 at 1:26 pm to LSUJML
quote:
Damn man, I will say a prayer for you
God Bless
I appreciate it JML. I’m hoping to be back in form before baseball season comes back around.
Posted on 8/18/26 at 1:27 pm to el Gaucho
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do they let you have a PlayStation in the hospital
Last time I was there my wife's boyfriend brought his Nintendo Switch
Posted on 8/18/26 at 1:27 pm to im4LSU
dude, you got over 100 downvotes on the other thread for this exact same post. Does it really even matter at this point? Let it GO !
You got your answers from this website and the court of public opinion over the last several days. LSU did nothing wrong. Jayden's Mom and legal team tried to make LSU look bad by going public with a "nothing burger". It totally backfired in Jayden's face as his reputation with LSU fans and sports media nationwide has been roasted into oblivion. If the Commanders don't make the playoffs this year, this same topic of conversation will rear it's ugly head in December with Washington fans and the sports media.
Momma, not knowing the facts and trying to strong-arm LSU, embarrassed her son, likely costing Jayden a statue from ever being unveiled on campus.
You got your answers from this website and the court of public opinion over the last several days. LSU did nothing wrong. Jayden's Mom and legal team tried to make LSU look bad by going public with a "nothing burger". It totally backfired in Jayden's face as his reputation with LSU fans and sports media nationwide has been roasted into oblivion. If the Commanders don't make the playoffs this year, this same topic of conversation will rear it's ugly head in December with Washington fans and the sports media.
Momma, not knowing the facts and trying to strong-arm LSU, embarrassed her son, likely costing Jayden a statue from ever being unveiled on campus.
Posted on 8/18/26 at 1:32 pm to el Gaucho
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ETA: do they let you have a PlayStation in the hospital
Yea but remote play is a beast and all I need is my IPad and controller…

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